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Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« on: September 05, 2017, 07:44:36 am »

hi, guys,
I have a question  according to this thread http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36613.25.html
  • which colors did he use for the ship
  • whic props did he use I mean which dia. (e.g. 3m or 4m and 25 or 30mm)
I intend to use 2 Esc one per Motor I have 7,2.v and one 4500 Mah pack battery for Both esc
any help and suggestion will be appreciated
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2017, 08:03:26 am »

Hi Cobby, from the pics, it looks like he used a dark grey primer as the upper colour, and a red primer for the lower hull colour, as to the props, they look to be racing type about 35 - 40 mm, not a good choice as the model is "tank" steered. 3 blade 35mm contra rotating props would be a lot better. All this depends on the motors that are fitted, 360, 400 types would be about right.


You might have to mix the paint to get the right tone but a final coat of semi matt clear coat would leave a nice even finish.


Hope this helps, more detail about the model would be helpful


Mark
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 11:57:26 am »

ok thanks,
I measured using caliper and the shaft gives 2,8mm..as diameter...so a prop 3M could be ok ?
I measured the diameter of propeller blade and gives more than 35mm so I think will be ok a 35mm and this is sure....even if I 'm going to use 5 blades..buta 35mm 5 Blade C-Type Propeller is 4M.....and for 4 blade M3 I have (174 series) 25mmDo
you Have any Idea of which Prop did he used?
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 03:40:24 pm »

Sovereign Miniatures sell the White Ensign Russian Navy colours in enamel.

The hull colour should be Russian Northern Fleet Grey - Original code(not sure if this is still used) is WEMCC M11.

 
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 07:50:34 pm »

thank you so much going to see
anyway I replay carefully my measures on prop shaft and I do confirm 3M diameter and propeller blades is 30mm
what do you suggest I'm loking to Raboesch brand...
Sovremenny 1/200 trumpeter has 25mm and 5 blades
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 09:00:04 am »

here you have my smasher to be converted:
p.s.
I opened It and surprise:
there is an Hole in the stern...with a proper compartement....dividing the future rudder area from Motors.... someone knows why...
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 09:46:52 am »

The hole in the hull between the props is to let water into the switch which prevents the props from working when the ship is not in water.
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2017, 10:37:18 pm »

which colors I will use because wem Colors are not in production

  • M11 russian Northern fleet Gray
  • M12 Russian deck green
  • M13 russian deck red
  • M20 russian navy baltic fleet gray
  can eqivalence be found?
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2017, 08:47:16 am »

To correct my previous post WEM colours are still available from Soverign Hobbies.
Link  -
https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 06:55:10 pm »

unfortunally Sovereign hobbies sends only to UK....and I live in Italy
anyway I will buy from Cornwell...
RAB168-07 25mm M3 Threaded 5 Blade R/H Brass C-Type Propeller
RAB168-08 25mm M3 Threaded 5 Blade L/H Brass C-Type Propeller
they could be Ok beacause in this model I have 2 Blade 30mm propellers
 
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 11:16:00 am »

here you are the new propellers..............
I have to add a Locknut x propeller...and all is done
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 04:47:07 pm »

They look so good Cobber, are you fitting rudders or staying with tank steering???


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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 08:04:19 am »

no mate,
I intend to fit a single rudder
I would like to use 1 esc x motor and a single rudder
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 09:17:25 am »

Hi mate, think you might have steering problems with one rudder, they need to be inline with the propwash, no probs with one ESC for 2 motors


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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 02:12:04 pm »

Hi mate, think you might have steering problems with one rudder, they need to be inline with the propwash, no probs with one ESC for 2 motors


Mark

There are quite a few kits with only one central rudder and twin props.

Billings have at least two that I am aware off, one of them being Samson II, which is a thread  is on this forum, the other is Polar.
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2017, 09:41:57 pm »

I do not know if will be ok one rudder....
I "drove" this Smasher with only his motors to turn and It was ok so I think will be better using a rudder and motors to turn.... I will test and if not I will change with  2 rudders
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2017, 08:55:09 am »


I saw the rudder used in



where can I find this type of rudder?
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2017, 11:36:32 am »

waitng for servo and rudder

I have to decide which colours I have to use
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2017, 01:48:08 pm »



do you know if it was necessary before giving the right enamel color to the HULL
  • to use emery paper ...and
  • to spray a primer
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2018, 03:34:04 pm »

The single rudder approach works well,if the props are rotating inboard,i.e looking at the stern of the boat, port shaft /clockwise and starboard shaft/anti-clockwise. This was how I set up my conversion to run and it still gives you a decent turning circle. Personally,I just went with 2x 25mm 3-bladed Raboesch props. Both motors run constantly,the steering only comes from the rudder.
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Re: Sovremenny-smasher conversion....
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2018, 09:15:28 pm »

thank you so much for your suggestions
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