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Second Seabex One ---- called Seabex two
« on: November 25, 2017, 11:36:45 am »

I was given a bare Seabex one hull by a member on here when I was building my scratchbuilt Hull version some time ago.

Sorry, but I cannot remember who.    :embarrassed:  Please make yourself known as I am now using it to make another Seabex one.  (Seabex two ?)

I have to scratch build everything to go into the hull and I must say it's an enjoyable experience.

I have loaded the pictures into the Forum's system, so am on a steep learning curve for this next bit.

Here are some of the build pictures so far.





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Re: Second Seabex One ---- called Seabex two
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2017, 04:34:10 pm »

kenny
have a look at these


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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schottelantrieb-Gondel-Twin-f%C3%BCr-Graupner-Azipod-Seabex-One-Thyssen-2/162601940401?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

They are nice John, not too much cash for the engineering involved either. BUT it does say may not post to UK.

That is because the German postal system if pretty uptight about mailing stuff out of Germany. I am led to believe if anything goes missing in transit 'over the border' they are still responsible for the loss and replacement/refund. Many sellers in Germany tend to use couriers now, with the extra incurred costs - I know to my detriment! I got some parts from a shop around 39€ worth, the courier charge doubled the price. {:-{

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2017, 05:09:58 pm »

cant comment on the quality of the product or what you get and still need.
As for postage . 99% of sellers that say they wont post to the UK will. They Dont charge alot ,worst I have ever had was 17 euros


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Re: Second Seabex One ---- called Seabex two
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 10:13:50 am »

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have a look at these

Nice bit of gear Cos.   :-))

I won't bother at this stage now as I'm committed to the old faithful way.  I have filled in the Schottle drive holes and am going for twin props.

The ship is well progressed as I've been quietly  (for me !!)  working away by producing a build with just the stock I have in stores.


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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2017, 10:49:13 am »

Moving on, here we have the hull being fitted out





Having decided not to use Schottle drives we fitted a pair of 600 type motors

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2017, 11:14:29 am »

Jumping ahead a few weeks.    :o    :}

Here is the upper cabin lower secion, constructed from Plastic card along with the funnels and flight deck.

The stern section is also covered, but fitted out with easy access holes for 'underground work'








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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 11:25:01 am »


Upper cabin completed, along with those angled windows.   They are really fun to build.  Even the second time I did them twice.   {-)




These took a while to cut out.   

and No  they won't be glazed.   :}


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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 11:39:03 am »


Moving to the stern I have made some fire hoses and fitted them on the top of the hollow frame.  Pipes will be run underneath to supply the water.




Guess what My wife bought for me in Poundland.  How can they do it for the price.





I then spent a few shillings at B&Q on some brass pipes and made the radio mast and radar supports.  I shall be doing this again as the criss-cross supports should be thinner material and I didn't have any at the time.



Unfortunately it has bee painted since this picture so it will all have to done again.  (two days work with a blow lamp ahead !)



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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2017, 11:44:55 am »


Here's a view of the painted aerial mast






here we went mad with the B & Q brass pipe.  came out Ok though


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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2017, 11:55:10 am »

The crane section is my favourite.

This was constructed from plastic card ALL hand cut from a large sheet and patiently glued together. I really enjoyed watching it all come together





A close up





We are now up to date, so progress will appear slower from now on. 

Miniature drive gear motors are on order so the crane is docked up waiting to be finished.  Meanwhile I'm in the process of making 100 railing pillars (stanchions) by hammering 2mm brass tubes flat and drilling them two 1mm holes each.   %)

If you think this is easy, then have a go.   :}

cheers for now

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Re: Second Seabex One ---- called Seabex two
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2017, 01:07:01 pm »

Another lovely build there Ken and as per usual I'll be watching this one progress too  :-))

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2017, 01:20:12 pm »

Going well Ken, snap with the stanchions.

I've made 36 this weekend, I cut strips of 0.25mm brass sheet into 4mm strips then drill 2 holes and a top notch for the cargo rails on my ship, still have another 40 to go. When I get to the handrails I need 280 stanchions with 3 holes and a top notch, these are only 2mm wide %% %% I'm seriously thinking about having a go at chemical etching these out of a sheet of brass rather than cutting them.

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2017, 09:11:54 pm »

Lovey work Ken.

I like the crane muchly  :-)) I thought you were zooming along until I saw you mention that this was a time lapse until now.

Still, you have got loads done.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2017, 10:22:17 am »


It does all look very speedy.     {-)  Lovely comments fellas.

We are actually talking around a month at 7 days a week of around 5 hours a day, 7 days a week.  Did I ever say I liked boat building.   :}  :}

Yesterday I built another giant mast as I wasn't too pleased with the heaviness of the previous version.  Some mistakes were made in the thickness of the brass tube and, as it was sprayed, it was too late to unsolder !!

Pictures will follow when the finished one is done. Today I will be making more stanchions Brian.  Yes they are tricky to do.  I crush the 2mm tube flat and drill 1mm holes in them. Oh what fun watching it wander to the edge.  :}
 
The secret seems to be getting the material dead flat and going very slow on the initial start hole to stop 'wandering' and then they come out Ok.  The next problem is the 'wire going through them. I am on the look out for single strand at under 1mm diameter as twisted copper wire really doesn't go well.   %)

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Re: Second Seabex One ---- called Seabex two
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2017, 11:34:37 am »

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In the pasts I have used 13amp earth wire, sorry but I do not know the size.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2017, 12:27:20 pm »

Oh my, this brings back memories, as I have built one of them beasts almost 30 years ago. It was great fun building and sailing in all its glorious functionality.
Great job so far!  :-))
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2017, 06:09:39 pm »

Make a jig for the drilling Ken. A piece of plywood with an L shaped piece glued to it, your stanchion goes in the crux of the L and is held steady. Make a plate out of thicker brass sheet, mark off your hole centres and drill through. This plate is then held on your stanchion with 'finger and thumb' clamp, then just drill through the plate, holes in the same place on every stanchion! Once holes are drilled, measure of length and trim before next one. ;)

Wire for the rails - look for rolls of jewellery or craft wire in places like the Range, ebay etc. comes in 10metre lenghts of varying thickness, get the half hard, the soft is too soft and hard is too hard O0 thicknesses go from 0.2mm 0.5mm 0.75mm and 1mm.

It will have taken up a curl from the rolls it is sold in, trim off a length say 15 inches or so, hold each end in pliers and waft through a low flame, this allows the pliers to pull it straight with light pressure and remove any curl or kinks - job done! Its what I use for all my handrails.

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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2017, 08:55:11 pm »


I like your ideas on the jig.  It never occurred to me to place a pre drilled master above the part to be drilled.  It would hold the tip of the drill stable much better. many thanks for this.

I shall wander down to the Range and have a browse at the wire you suggest.

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2017, 11:05:27 am »


Well,  I wandered over to the Range and found the wire suggested.  It looks great and I look forward to fitting it when I've made another 50 or so stanchions.

Meanwhile I have used some of my stock of coffee sticks   %)  and made a few hundred planks.  These are all sanded to shape and fitted to the rear deck and stained.



Here's a few close ups.



The  'lift off deck covers' have yet to sanded to fit tidy, but the overall effect is rather startling.


Here is the  "new"  radio mast made from thinner brass tube braces.  It is yet to be painted but I think it looks better than the first version.





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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2017, 11:09:33 am »


I have also made the rescue lifeboats




These were made from solid timber and sanded to shape.

Just the launching ramps to figure out.    ok2





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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2017, 11:34:43 pm »

I like the planks Ken and the mast looks great  :-))

Nice boat.
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2017, 07:02:33 am »

On the crane, replace those ugly nuts and bolts. If you cut down a couple of half inch panel nails so you have the head and a short piece of shaft. Insert one at each side and a spot of superglue to hold in place, this will let the job still pivot but look more to scale.

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2017, 09:18:17 pm »


Thanks Ian.  I thought the planks looked like they were worn with use.   :}

Four sections lift off for access to the innards.  I haven't got any catches on them yet but I'm working on some large containers.

Good idea Brian.  I'll work on it.  I have fitted the stanchions and wired them with 0.6mm twisted picture frame wire and it came out great.  Thanks for the construction tips.

I now know how to thread twisted multi-strand wire through 1mm holes.      ....    you solder the ends before trying to thread them through 60 holes.   %%








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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2017, 11:39:11 pm »

Similar to melting the end of a new pull start cord with a lighter to harden it so you can thread it through the pulley hole.
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