Model Boat Mayhem - Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length.
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   Go Down

Author Topic: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build  (Read 30506 times)

T33cno

  • Guest
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2018, 06:59:32 PM »

The best boat porn on the web  :-))
Logged

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2018, 05:44:50 PM »

The best boat porn on the web  :-))


 {-) {-)


Okay next up is to mount the rudder servo which needs to go here after the hatched area had been removed





Once the piece had been removed it left the structure very vulnerable so I wanted to make a box for the servo which filled the space exactly. So after a bit of cutting, clamping and gluing I made the box





Which needed a slot to allow the wiring to fit in nicely





Which then looked like this





I then clamped and glued the box into it place








Which gave me a nice snug fit and put even more strength into the structure











And then finally I bored out the rudder tube hole to see how it all lined up.








Thats it for now - Mark  :-)
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

derekwarner

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8,090
  • Location: Wollongong Australia
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2018, 09:25:17 PM »

Mark.........the gas tank appears to have taken on a distinctly flattish top  %) surface...is this an illusion?......... Derek
Logged
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2018, 02:57:05 AM »

Hi Derek itís just the photo as itís still round  O0
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

IanJ

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 101
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: South Somerset, UK
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2018, 10:45:38 AM »

Hi Mark,


Still following your most interesting build and please keep the photos of how the boiler room & engine room are being configured coming, very informative indeed!  I suspect it's something you have mentioned before; do you intend to conduct tests of the assembly under steam before the planking?


Clearly understand the importance & need for the tray to catch the all of drips etc., but have you considered or see the benefit in adding a small thimble size sump to the tray to aid removal of the water/oil mixture, say with a suitable syringe?


Ian
Logged

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2018, 10:57:31 AM »

Hi Ian yes Iím hoping to get it fully working before any planking is done. I know that I canít iron out every problem but if I can do for 90% Iíll be happy. I hadnít thought about a sump - Iíll think about that one thanks for the idea  :-))
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2018, 11:48:59 AM »

A bit of an update this time to fit the steam whistle.  Now as easy as it sounds to quickly fit a whistle its not quite as simple on this build.  As its an enclosed steam plant, to run a whistle up through the superstructure was just not going to work.  There is not the space available on the deck and it would also complicate putting the superstructure onto the hull when I'm sailing.  A solution was found after a call to Clevedon Steam as Jerry supplies a whistle kit that fits inside the funnel.





Now as its inside the funnel I didn't want it simply rattling around so firstly I made a support for both the whistle and the engine exhaust.  Its just some copper tube silver soldered to a stainless steel stud.





I then cut a slot in the funnel to allow the steam pipe to go through which I also found supports the whistle quite well.








And then fitted the top mount that I had made earlier.  It made the whistle very secure indeed





Next was to fit the valve that controls the whistle and I had to have a 90 degree elbow made by Jerry to get it to fit.  He did a lovely job for me.








Which was then fitted to the boiler and the pipework connected up to the whistle through a straight connector so that the funnel can easily be removed.





And finally I fitted the servo to work the whistle.  The reason for the springs on the control rod is because the valve must have a positive shut  off to close fully.  I'm using the springs to keep pressure on the valve and remove it from the servo gears.





Mark  :-)
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

steamboatmodel

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 307
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2018, 03:40:58 PM »


We used to call springs set up like that "servo savers". You could buy the complete set in one package. I really like the look of that whistle
Gerald..

Logged
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors--and miss. Lazarus Long

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2018, 05:01:55 PM »

Hi Gerald yes I used to use these on my cars before transmitters were adjustable but I think it will work well in this application too.


Just a quick update I drilled the holes for the servo wires so that they trail back to where the receiver is going to live.








Mark  :-)
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

rhavrane

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 451
  • Steam passionate collector
  • Location: Saint-Mandť, Val-de-Marne, France
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2018, 07:58:41 PM »

Bonjour Mark,
Great ! Your boat is almost finished... Oups, I have forgotten a detail... A hull  {-)
Logged
RaphaŽl
RaphaŽlopoulos Steam Lines UnLimited
Membre du Modele Yacht Club de Paris http://mycparis.fr/
Ma chaÓne YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/user/rhavrane
Mes albums : https://picasaweb.google.com/104408627118165995713/

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2018, 09:01:11 PM »

Hi Raphael; yes you are right it certainly won't float  {-)   I've got to be honest I'm really looking forward to getting the hull built and seeing it come to life  :-))
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

bfgstew

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 498
  • Comfortably Numb
  • Location: Retford (Robin Hood Country)
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2018, 09:25:35 PM »

Shame you can't make it from clear plastic Mark.......show off all the great detail...... :-))
Logged
"Give me a ping Vasili. One ping only, please"

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2018, 09:38:23 PM »

Shame you can't make it from clear plastic Mark.......show off all the great detail...... :-))


Thanks Stewart; I wonder if anyone has ever done that?  I bet it would look amazing  :-))   Something for the skilled vac moulders on here to think about.
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

bfgstew

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 498
  • Comfortably Numb
  • Location: Retford (Robin Hood Country)
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2018, 10:11:00 PM »

The steam launch my father left me is superb above and below deck, some of it you cannot see, shame really.
Clear vac formed hull could be the way to go....... %%
Logged
"Give me a ping Vasili. One ping only, please"

T33cno

  • Guest
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2018, 10:20:22 PM »

Take some very well framed shots of all that won't be seen later and make a series of poster sized prints  :-))   8)
Logged

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2018, 02:38:33 PM »

Take some very well framed shots of all that won't be seen later and make a series of poster sized prints  :-))   8)


Actually that a really good idea thanks Andy  :-))


Ok onto lagging the boiler and I nicked this method from someone on this forum after having read a few older posts.  So its not my idea I'm just copying someone else - well why reinvent the wheel eh!


Firstly the boiler needed stripping down and the first layer of insulation was marked and cut out.  I have used 1mm of ceramic paper which apparently is used in kilns somewhere and is good for 1250 degree centigrade.








Which was then wrapped around the boiler and held in place with very thin double sided sellotape.








I next used wood stain in the areas that may be seen after the wood cladding has been fitted.  I think that seeing the white ceramic would look quite bad and this is a simple solution and used before by other builders.








I then started the cladding using 3mm x 9mm walnut wood which is really nice to work with





And the angles were planed using my little Veritas plane with is lovely to use.  It works just like the full size version and gives great results.  I did guess the angle though.





I will have to update this a bit later as I'm having a few problems uploading photos but thanks for looking - Mark  :-)
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2018, 04:05:35 PM »

Hooray we're back in business now that Martin has sorted out the photo server - thanks Martin  :-))


So I carried on planing the planks and gluing them in place around the boiler











Which was then sanded down to make it look a bit smarter











Next was to make the brass bands that wrap around the boiler.  Again I nicked Jerry C's idea of how to make them as I thought that his method look very nice.  I started by making some T bolts which have a slider one side a a 2mm thread in the other.





I then silver soldered some tube onto the end of the band





And then using a dremel with a cutting disk I cut a slot into the tube that was wide enough to allow the 2mm bolt to slide through





I did this a both ends of the band and then had a trial fit to see if they were the right length.  Please excuse that swarf hanging off and the rough wood but this was just a test fit








I was quite happy with the fit so first thing was to clean up the ends of the bands so that they looked a little nicer








And lastly I gave the walnut 4 coats of matt varnish and the boiler ended up like this  :-))





I'm really happy with the way its turned out  :}   These Pendle boilers are just fantastic  :-))


Thanks for looking - Mark  :-)
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

T33cno

  • Guest
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2018, 04:07:58 PM »

Outstanding! clearly this is oozing personal satisfaction  :-)
Logged

IanJ

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 101
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: South Somerset, UK
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2018, 04:38:08 PM »

Mark,


You have managed to improve on what was already a very nice boiler!


Ian
Logged

Captain fizz

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 280
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Oakham Rutland
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2018, 04:43:28 PM »

Very nice work Mark, it is the detail that is so satisfying :-))
Logged

rhavrane

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 451
  • Steam passionate collector
  • Location: Saint-Mandť, Val-de-Marne, France
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2018, 06:24:59 PM »

Bonjour Mark,
Sorry, but you make a little mistake says one of my friends. In a closed hull, especially in a working boat the boiler should be covered by a skin of painted steel sheet. Wood is for open launches  ok2
Logged
RaphaŽl
RaphaŽlopoulos Steam Lines UnLimited
Membre du Modele Yacht Club de Paris http://mycparis.fr/
Ma chaÓne YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/user/rhavrane
Mes albums : https://picasaweb.google.com/104408627118165995713/

Jerry C

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,102
  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales.
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2018, 12:29:54 AM »

Your soldered bands look neater than my rivets. All a beautiful job.
Following from afar.
Jerry.

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2018, 10:48:17 AM »

Thanks for the nice comments  ok2


Jerry Iím glad that I did solder the ends as I made them just a little too long. It was a simple matter of just cutting off one end and re-soldering a new piece making them 5mm shorter  :embarrassed:
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html

Jerry C

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,102
  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales.
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2018, 11:04:05 AM »

Us Black Country guys got to stick together. Me ex Wednesfield.
Bostin  ayit  ar👌🏿
Jerry.

Mark T

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 1,030
  • Location: Dudley in the Black Country
Re: Panart/Mantua Anteo Steam Tug Build
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2018, 11:08:48 AM »

Us Black Country guys got to stick together. Me ex Wednesfield.
Bostin  ayit  ar👌🏿
Jerry.


According to my neighbours Iím an Honary Black Country man as Iíve lived there for 28 year but Iím originally from the smoke 👍
Logged
Its not the finishing that matters - Its the journey along the way that counts

Fairmount Alpine Build http://modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/album/bXv
Anteo Tug Build http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,59708.0.html
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12   Go Up