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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 07:51:38 PM »

Yes!
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2007, 07:54:48 PM »

 O0

and....did you save us any biscuits  ;D ;D

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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2007, 07:56:49 PM »

Thanks
Just shows how much I have to learn , I would have ended up running a wire to the radiator to earth it..
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2007, 08:07:00 PM »



.... OK, I give up! What's the switches for Dave?



Included deliberately to see if you'd read the fancy manual, Martin. It seems you did.....well, bits of it. You can send the DIL switch back if you really  want to.

I've just read John's post - strangely similar to the Instructions, aye (and I've never supplied him with a P80 kit). Could it be that we both have the same Hymn Sheet? Would I recognise such a thing? Would Bluebird? Of such mysteries is life made.

To get back to the subject, static is not the big problem some folk seem to think. If you're sensible, take your time, RTFM and don't wear a woolly jumper while sitting on a 100% polyester carpet in a thunderstorm to do your soldering then you'll have a job to do much damage.

FLJ  ;)
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2007, 08:07:40 PM »

Hi ya there The long Build

there is no harm in doing what you suggest, earthing off to the radiator, as long as its the 'old type' radiators with copper pipes and they have all been earth bonded.

With regard to your Electronize kit build, you will find a mega difference in components between Electronize and ACTion kits.    Electronize have 33 resistors - 4 diodes - 2 ICs - 8 transistors - 15 capacitors and, if you are building the one with the BEC in, its also got the BEC module - which is just a small component and nothing to worry about.

To be honest, there is nothing too difficult with these kits, there is no real need to use an anti-static tray - to be honest with you I have never used one.  The only 2 different things that I do is, the Electronize kit is not supplied with an IC socket, for the main IC, and they are only coppers to buy.  Also, I use a crocodile clip as a heat sink on all the transistors.

Its amazing isnt it.  That little chip in the ACTion speed controller, does away with all those resistors, transistors and capacitors  :) than the Electronize kit, and they both do the same job.

A good magnifying glass is also very handy for building the Electronize kits.  8)

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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2007, 08:11:48 PM »

FLJ, just read your comments - so you must suffer from knee burns from rummaginig around on the carpet looking for the dropped transistors  ;) I thought I had solved the problem by getting a plain light carpet until I spilt the paint on it.   I agree must not wear too many woolly jumpers restricts the movement.

say no more ..... or I will be getting in trouble for hijacking the thread  :angel:

John
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2007, 11:16:58 PM »

Looking at how smal that is i think i will stick to my plan or building one already done, dont think my soldering skills up to that yet
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2007, 12:25:18 AM »

The woolly jumper can be a static problem.  When I worked for a large communications firm, we were given our image workwear, including a nice woolly jumper.  A colleague had just been given a static meter to use and was reading the instructions and trying not to laugh because it looked like a small lunch box with a plastic stick poking out and an LED display.  I pulled on my new woolly pully.  He pointed the toy lunchbox at me.  It lit up like a Christmas tree.
At about the same time we were issued with static protection kits, which were resistive leads with a wriststrap at one end and a croc clip on the other for connection to a radiator or other piece of earthed metalwork.  The important bit was the resistance, as the intention was to limit the discharge current down to a level that was not harmful to either equipment or person.  Funny stuff, static.
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2007, 01:02:30 AM »

Funny stuff, static.

You're right-on. A lot of wasted juice.
How can we harness the stuff, turn it to our advantage instead of it zapping the pants off every silicon molecule?

The first thing to say is thanks to Martin for the neat pic's. Nice shots, amigo. How did you manage to hold the solder and the iron AND the camera all at the same time?
Second thing is, thanks both to Martin and Bluebird for the top-notch biscuit-tin grounding gizmo idea, because it's MILES less poncy than using one of those bondage'y wrist-strap jobs.

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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2007, 10:08:33 AM »

Right lads, how's ya hair for static - hey Im quite lucky got hardly any hair - lost it all in a static blast  :D :D

Anyway erm serious side  :-X

Setting up and testing your speed controoller.   If you havent got one of ACTion's fancy servo testers and you are going to test it via a motor and battery and your RX gear, dont forget to follow a sequence of set up.

Switch your transmitter on first and make sure that your throttle stick is in neutral position

Followed by your RX supply

Then, switch your main power on to the speed controller and motor

Failure to do it this way, sometimes the speed controller spits its dummy out and throws its teddy out of the pram  ;) and sits and either does nothing, or you get full ahead and nothing or full astern and nothing.  The reason being, the chip inside the speed controller is programmed to look for a signal with a neutral position which has been transmitted from your receiver and if it doesnt find this signal, it will try and look for one itself at any position.  That is why sometimes people will say, ah the speed controller doesnt work.

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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2007, 05:04:34 PM »

   I have just purchased ACTion kits servo tester RTR 'cos my hands and eyes don't work together on little bits of soldering.   BOY!!! what a cracking piece of equiptment,
   worked as they are supposed to first time, all my servos are now marked on dead centre, all have to do when fitting in boat is put the checker on and set it to center, no more looking for TX , RX, crystals to test a suspect servo, just a four pack.   Well done FLJ cost 10 less Mayhem member discount and first class service and NO, I have never met Dave except on mayhem...     bigH
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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2007, 11:19:23 PM »

Must get on of those Servo tester things......

Anyway, all connected up this evening:







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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2007, 11:29:36 PM »



                                      IT WORKS!!

You see, when I follow the instructions, it does do what it says on the tin!



               
                 You can just hear the relay droping in for reverse....

           Excellent, simple, quick! - Mayhem Approved.  O0


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Re: Action Kits - Condor 20/2 - Autoset computer speed controller.... Build
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2007, 07:15:02 PM »

I've also just built two Condor 20 esc's for my new project but made the mistake of trying to solder using a 1mm tip.  This took too long to melt the solder so I had to buy a 2mm spade tip which did a much better job of heating and melting the solder.  I won't tell you what FLJ said when he saw my results but, suffice to say, a few bob went into the swear box.  The moral of this tale is to practice on something that doesn't matter first if you are out of practice.

Anyway, despite the above gent's comments the units both worked first time.   O0 :laugh: :laugh:
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