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What is wrong with this Type 42
« on: September 11, 2007, 09:59:24 pm »

As Above, a mate of mine bought this model, plank on frame at 1/72, but she just dont look quite right to me, anyone got any ideas what is wrong?

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 10:10:39 pm »

Hi Bob, to me, who ever built it has tried to make it look right, but, as for what is wrong with it after building about 8 of the bleeders myself, never mind serving on em, there is quite alot, but, I won't critisise, the guy has tried and its not that bad for maybe a first attempt, but, is it a first attempt by someone or what? That may have been someone's pride and joy at some point.
 Nuff said? ;)
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 11:02:35 pm »

Paul the reason I am asking is I have been asked to PUT IT RIGHT.
Criticize away as long as its factual.
I havent got any 42 plans, but lots of pics, but cant decide which is the BIGGEST job.
But looking to pass on it, just got too much on right now, just finished fitting out 3 warships!!

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 11:09:39 pm »

PM sent ;D
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 10:53:42 am »

Thanks for the photos.
I have some as well, but the model in the pisc just dont look quite right, but cant quite put my finger on it.
I dont want to actually see it for the above reasons.

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 11:34:34 am »

The thing that jumps off the screen is the stem is too rounded off.
Otherwise a nice looking model i think.
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 11:37:04 am »

She looks out of proportion somewhere, but cant quite see it.

Bob
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 11:44:22 am »

Is the stern too upright ? :-\
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 03:18:10 pm »

Hi there Bob, personally I dont think there is anything wrong with the model.   

At first glances, like yourself, there was something wrong - like you have already said maybe out of proportion somewhere.  But, when you sit with a couple of photographs like I did of the original ship HMS Exeter, then at least I began to realise there are some stark differences between the first batch of ships (Type 42s) and the stretch types (batch 3s).

When you compare them - you tend to compare it with the stretch type of batch 42s.

The only thing which may be wrong with the model which I would personally query myself is the size of Helicopter hangar and also the flight deck.

Brings to mind the old saying - so easy to criticise and pick fault but oh so difficult to put right. 

I would give it back to the gentleman and tell him to go and sail his model and enjoy it, rather than pick faults.

Its a nice model.

As has previously been said - someone's pride and joy  :)

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 07:11:11 pm »

Looks like the bow's to rounded, also I think what makes it look odd is the lack of detail to the upper deck - no clutter!

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 11:18:09 pm »

John (Bluebird) it has been bought by a mate who likes everything "just so".
He has asked me to "put it right".
I too think the bow, stern and hangar/helideck look out of proportion, but really dont have the time to work on others models when I have my own.
Thanks Holmsey for pics, and all the opinions from everyone.

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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2007, 08:35:02 am »

If the basic shape is wrong there isn't much you can do about it now.
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 06:15:56 pm »

this is a picture of HMS Exeter, I have flipped it over so port becomes starboard, this is the closest angle I have found to the top pic.

speaking as someone who doesnt really know a great deal about the type 42, I cant see much wrong with the model itself,  comparing it to the reversed photo what may be making it look "wrong" is the fact that the model's bow is quite blunt, is this down to it being a plank on frame using a bow-post, I dont know.  If that is the case then there isn't much anyone can do about it apart from enjoy it on the water.  Chances are, (I may be wrong) the average person who looks at models probably would't notice it unless it was physically pointed out to them.

Yes it was someones pride and joy, and they have done a good job in building it.  it may be the fact that the model was built with a rounded bow to make it a little bit stronger incase of accidental ramming, as if the plates were brought forwards over the bow post to form the sharp point that is characteristic of most warships, then there was probably a higher potential for damage and constant repair because of the bow being so sharp.

Looking at the stern, HMS Exeter has what looks to be a welded stern plate rather than a rounded stern section as depicted on the model, this i again suspect was done the way it was for strength and to "match" the bow. 

despite its percived "faults" in its construction, it probably sails remarkably well.  may not be the most accurate model in the world, however like I said earlier, the average person on the street probably wouldn't even notice, even without its pennant number, most people would still identify it as a Type 42, on that point alone the guy who built it has done a pretty good job with the model
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Re: What is wrong with this Type 42
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 10:42:00 pm »

Thanks for all the replies.
I have however just increased my vocabulary, I have learned to say "NO"
So I have passed on this opportunity to get some of my own modelling done.

Bob
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