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JerryTodd

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1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« on: July 11, 2011, 09:03:32 PM »

This one's been alluded to now and then in this forum, so I thought I start a dedicated thread on the occasion that the model is officially a boat - having sailed under it's own power for the first time this last Sunday, July 10th.



Not finished by a long shot, just jury rigged for a test sail which generally went well, though the wind wouldn't cooperate in the least.

Next step is setting up the controls routing, thru-deck stuff, and get the deck on - which will greatly reduce the "pucker factor" when she heels ;)

There's also a bit of video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLQedpTr7v0&feature=mh_lolz&list=HL1310412313

My site is loaded with design notes, the real ship's history, and loads of pictures: http://todd.mainecav.org/model/constellation/
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2018, 02:54:01 PM »

It may be time for a little update, ye think?

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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2018, 04:09:06 PM »


Hello Jerry,


The boat looks very, very nice.
Bet you are looking forward to the finish !!.


John  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2018, 04:43:27 PM »

Excellent looking ship.  A square rigger, with no keel?

I would love to see more information on how she sails as these ships are technically challenging to sail as models.   :-))
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2018, 05:51:38 PM »

Thank you for the kind words.

John; I stopped thinking about "finishing" her and just work on what ever I need to to meet whatever temporary goal I've set my self, like getting her ready for an event.  I imagine at some point I'll get to a point that I don't have anything to do to her, but I'm sure there'll always be maintenance and repairs.

Bob; she has external ballast, it's the gray pipe she sits on in this picture.  It's a PVC pipe filled with lead bird shot and weights 42 pounds.  It's held to the boat with 5/16 inch stainless steel threaded rods.  One is where the galley hatch is just aft of the foremast, and will be disguised as the galley stack.  The other is under the skylight just forward of the mizzen and the power switch.
The launch cart is a channel on wheels meant to basically hold the ballast.  I bolt a boat to it now and then.  There's a couple of padded side supports to keep the boat from falling over.  ;)
She doesn't have a deep fin, like Stad Amsterdam or some other models, it isn't necessary unless you're going to over sail her, and she 's designed so she can shorten sail easily, though not automatically.

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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2018, 06:06:33 PM »

How she sails
October 26, 2016.  Second sail in open water (not a pool).  Winds were 5-10 mph with puffs of 15, fluky because of the terrain.
https://youtu.be/80b2au24rFQ
Reducing sail by detaching t'gallants and royals; bunting up courses, and trys'ls.  Also detaching and reattaching the model to it's ballast.
https://youtu.be/yVUWRTnBJ2g
The Model's Statistics: 
  • Scale 1:36 - 1 inch = 3 feet.
  • Beam: 13-5/8" (34.6 cm)
  • Length on deck: 61" (154.9 cm)
  • Length between perpendiculars: 59-1/8" (150.2 cm)
  • Draft, without ballast keel: 7" (17.8 cm) With 3-1/2" ballast keel: 10-1/2" (26.7 cm)
  • Weight, with-out ballast or battery: 30 pds; battery: 5 pds; external ballast: 44 pounds; internal ballast: 15 pds; total: 94 pounds.
  • Length over the rig: 95" (241.3 cm)
  • Width over the rig: 30.5" (77.5 cm) ~ Main yard w/o stuns'l booms.
  • Height bottom of keel to main truck, without ballast keel: 65" (165.1 cm) With ballast keel: 69" (175.3 cm)
  • Total Sail Area: 2,623.26 square inches in 17 sails (18.22 sf, 16,924.21 scm)
  • Minimum Sail Area: 1,148.77 square inches in 5 sails (8.75 sf, 7,411.38 scm)

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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2018, 06:52:57 PM »

Wow !   Thank you so much for the very detailed explanation. 
The videos are both descriptive and superb.

An well planned and executed design.  Well done Sir  :-))
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2018, 08:17:39 AM »

Hi Jerry you are building a very beautiful ship there - well done  :-))   I can only imagine some of the technical problems that you have had to overcome to get this far!
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 09:00:56 AM »

Very interesting to read this post. My late brother, Duncan, was the research officer for HMS Gannet in Chatham Historic Dockyard.
Gannet is also a sloop of war, but transitional sail/steam.
One of Duncanís finds came from a former employee at Sheerness Dockyard, where Gannet was built, the employee was told to shred some documents, but kept them for posterity. Some of these documents were the original plans of Gannet, drawn, not on paper, but on oilcloth, all text in perfect copperplate, all systems colour-coded in watercolour, they are works of art in their own right.
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2018, 08:27:20 PM »

This project was begun when I thought I had "settled down."  I was married, owned a home, had a regular job; we lived a few hundred yards from a small river or a large creek, where I sailed my 16 foot sailboat.  I had always wanted to build a large RC square-rigger.  A proper scale model.  Up til then I had built a myriad of little models, converted plastic kits, and scrap wood oddities, all of which were free-sailing, usually quite simple, and bobbed like corks in open water like Baltimore's Inner Harbor where I pretty much lived in my teens and early 20's.  I was also inspired by the Rattlesnake model I saw in Model Ship Builder magazine #25.  (I didn't see this video until about a year ago, I wish I had seen it then:  https://youtu.be/GXVv_vN18QM )

I wasn't planning on building any vessel in particular, but rather a particular rig, a hermaphrodite, or jack-ass bark - basically a bark with a fore-n-aft mains'l instead of a square.  My long time friend Mark, who I've sailed and worked with since our early teens suggested Constellation.  I knew the Constellation well as a hideous, rotten, hogged, anachronism the city was trying pass off as the 1797 frigate.  Mark argued that the ship had just begun a restoration back into an 1854 sloop of war, had a Civil War history, local history, and was certainly a square-rigger, and in building a model, I'd have the real ship right there in front of me.  I looked into it and found that a builder's half model had recently been discovered at the Naval Academy, and that matching drawings existed in the National Archives.
Looking at drawings in the Archives was amazing.  I not only saw, but handled original drawings with pin holes for copying, erasures, handwriting; for someone of my interests, it was like being in a temple and handling sacred texts.  I came out of the place with a dozen copies of drawings for Constellation.  Chief among my haul was an 1853 drawing in 1:36 scale (same as the half model) which is the scale I decided to go with.  I felt it would be large enough to handle in the creek like a boat, and not a fishing bobber, and the rig could be reduced enough to fit in my SUV.
I started the model in February 1999 and hardly got anywhere before life intervened and it was put aside for more than 10 years before I started to really work on it again.
 
Almost 10 years after that, I'm still working on this thing, and it's still not finished.  I don't know that it ever will really be "finished" but I hope to get to some level of completion before I'm set out with the trash one morning.

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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2018, 09:57:12 AM »

pic of Gannet
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Re: 1854 Sloop of War Constellation
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2018, 02:03:08 PM »

Added the capstan, wheel, and skylight windows.  The power switch and aft keel rod are under the skylight.  The skylight, capstan, and two hatches for-and-aft of it form the battery compartment hatch.The rebuilt gun carriages got some paint too.

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