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type 21
« on: September 19, 2007, 08:19:16 PM »

           I have just started to get the bits together for my type 21 frigate that I got from Paul in Septembers PSS/Mayhem competition.
I have been trawling the web for research and I have not been very successful, Does anybody know of a good source for the type 21?
                                                                Phil

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Re: type 21
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 08:26:47 PM »

HI there
here is a couple of sites for you

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/rn/frigates/amazon/

http://www.oldships.org.uk/

If looking for info the boats were also called the Amazon class
that may help
What kind of info is it you are looking for ?
Colin

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Re: type 21
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 08:30:13 PM »

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Re: type 21
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 08:32:34 PM »

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Re: type 21
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 08:34:28 PM »

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Re: type 21
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 09:38:03 PM »

Jumpin Jack
Modern Combat Ships No5
Type 21
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Capt John Lippiett, RN

I have use this book for all my Type 21's (5)

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Re: type 21
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 12:54:31 PM »

Thanks guys.....I'll try and put a build thread going when I get started O0
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Re: type 21
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 04:12:28 PM »

Hi Folks!
Here's a good site on the Type 21 frigate HMS Ambuscade - lots of photographs, including some taken of her in drydock after she had to have her bow replaced following a collision. Hope it's of some help!

Regards, Glyn

http://ambuscade.org.uk/index.html
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Re: type 21
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 08:06:22 PM »

Thanks Glynn,
        A very comprehensive site on the 21, I'm just in the planning stage at the moment and I'm trying to work out the best way to set everything out. The superstructure doesn't look very easy to do, unlike the 42's that have 2 main sections.  The 21 seems to go the entire length of the ship, so do I try and break it up into smaller parts or build it in one section? I'm  thinking of access here to all the electrics and running gear.
I'm hoping that the mayhem crew with some  experience with the  21 can help.
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Re: type 21
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 10:40:54 PM »

I have only ever had 1/72 scale 21's and these had one piece superstructures.
But at this scale topweight isnt so crutial.
I would suggest you ask Paul at PSSHIPS, but do keep the topweight down!!

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 10:42:41 PM »

HiYa ive done my Active superstructure in one piece up to hangar door,leaving the door fixed to deck,so that the structure butts up to it        Alex
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Re: type 21
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 10:49:13 PM »

Jumpin jack,
Some pics of a 1/64 Scale Type 21

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2007, 07:32:17 PM »

Looking at the one piece superstructure, I think this is the way to go...I knew you guys would point me in the right direction
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Re: type 21
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2007, 04:34:16 PM »

At last - this weekend found time to make a start - here are some piccys
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Re: type 21
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2007, 04:39:14 PM »

Im bet this will turn out to be a ery nice build i quite like the 21's. And im sure paul will be a foutain of knowledge i beleive he is very fond of his 21's.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2007, 05:27:56 PM »

I cant wait to see this one done either {-)
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Re: type 21
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2007, 05:48:58 PM »

buildings come to a halt at the moment, cant seem to get hold of the batteries for her... Paul suggested I get a couple of 12v 2.2ah lead acids for her and modelpower havent any in stock...any ideas??
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Re: type 21
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2007, 05:57:18 PM »

Have you tried maplins?
sure whereever you are in the country theres one nearby
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Re: type 21
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2007, 05:59:05 PM »

How deep is she up to your waterline?

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Re: type 21
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »

As she is at the moment, without any ballast shes about 2 inches I would say off of the waterline.
I'm only going on what Paul suggested to me at the time, I've only got one 6volt battery in my type 42 and that struggles to stay upright. So I'm hoping that this configuration will keep this model more stable in the water.
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Re: type 21
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2007, 06:49:13 PM »

Component Shop, excerllent service and price. I have used them many times. O0


http://www.component-shop.co.uk/html/lead-acid.html

12V 2Ah

178 x 34 x 61mm. 3/16 (4.8mm) spade terminals.

7.25 each.
6.50 discounted price for 5+ batteries
5.00 discounted price for 20+ batteries
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Re: type 21
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2007, 07:02:25 PM »

Thanks DickyD,
         Thanks for that , I'll be ordering a couple this week. ;D
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Re: type 21
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2007, 07:05:21 PM »

Jumpin Jack,
What motors are you running her on, seems a bit light in capacity.

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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2007, 08:08:29 PM »

Hi all, the system I have suggested he use on our small warships has been used by me on all of them since 1999 and works a treat, no problem with top weight as long as you build that to spec and not with half inch chip board as someone did a few years ago and then blamed the company. Endurance about 4 hours on the motor battery combination that I suggested. Then there is even more scope with endurance on a couple of spare batteries. 12 volt, yes tripple 5 motors, they are very low drain, but, need 12 volts for the speed. I hope this helps. The small thin 12 volt batteries can also be laid into the hull down the centreline to help make sure, you do not cause a lol or a sagging problem by having one big one in the middle of the hull, never mind roll, as batteries are heavier at the base than at the top, well, as far as gell cells go anyway. Looks like I will have to add a few pages to our building guide. Thanks guys! ;)
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2007, 10:36:54 PM »

Paul,
Whose running gear do you use, G, Sitek?

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