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Perkasaman2

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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2018, 02:52:58 PM »

Thanks Colin for all the info and background I will definitely arrange for a 2  day visit to take in all the attractions available at the dockyard etc.
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2018, 04:04:11 PM »

Watched the catch up on 5 this morning, although an interesting program, it was lacking in substance i.e. it only covered up to the trafalgar battle, and not what happen later in life to show how she became derelict pre 1900
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2018, 04:18:15 PM »

Yes, if you already knew about the ship it was quite shallow really. I guess they were aiming at all those people who have only the vaguest idea of our maritime history. If it sparks some interest for people to dig a bit deeper then it will be a good thing.
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 07:52:23 PM »

A bit of activity going on, seems to involve some rope . Glad to see the workers are wearing hard hats, those seagulls can be vicious




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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 08:16:43 PM »

still looking bare in the upper regions.




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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2018, 08:25:02 PM »

Looks as if all the new hydraulic props are installed. Don't know if the supports as arranged at present are permanent, but with the cradles , all the props and supports it looks like an explosion in a scrapyard. Not at all shipshape. I assume they are pressurising the props to bring the hull back to the shape they wish to preserve her at.


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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2018, 09:48:00 PM »

Just as an aside. Being able to touch the bell of HMS Hood recovered from her wreck in the Atlantic and now displayed in the Jutland Exhibition is a bit special.
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2018, 08:51:32 AM »


Looks like they are going to paint the mast and bowsprit in the same odd colour.


If they do finally get her back to her correct shape, how are they going to maintain it without looking like a mass of struts under, fit a steel frame under every other main beam and clad it in wood to look like one of the type used for the long boats?


Noticed the under water hull is grey, should this not be copper?


I presume the series is for journalistic effect, only a channel like quest or yesterday would do a proper history. (quest is a tongue in cheek statement - they are similar to 5)
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2018, 10:45:52 AM »

Hi it's John V last time I went abord a lot of the canon's are plastic cheers John V
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2018, 10:54:29 AM »

If that is correct then I would assume that removing 2/3 tons of cannon by however many, would reduce the weight acting down on the hull - without the weight being counteracted by the water if she was at sea, I would also assume the barrels in the hold would also be empty and the stones as ballast be plastic as well.  ;)
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2018, 10:59:21 AM »

Just as an aside. Being able to touch the bell of HMS Hood recovered from her wreck in the Atlantic and now displayed in the Jutland Exhibition is a bit special.
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cannot expect that to go on too long, have you see the state of a bronze figure after everyone touches a particular part as its considered good luck, there wont be much left of the bell if everyone was allowed to touch it ad hoc, or the amount of grease from fingerprints (and other detritus) sullying a priceless artefact {:-{
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2018, 12:51:03 PM »


I tried to watch it last night on Channel 5 'Catch up'..... so many adverts!   
Gave up after 20 minutes.  >>:-(
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2018, 04:24:06 PM »

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cannot expect that to go on too long, have you see the state of a bronze figure after everyone touches a particular part as its considered good luck, there wont be much left of the bell if everyone was allowed to touch it ad hoc, or the amount of grease from fingerprints (and other detritus) sullying a priceless artefact
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Well, the bell survived a cataclysmic explosion followed by 75 years at the bottom of the Atlantic so I doubt if the occasional fingerprint is going to do it any real damage, especially as it must be polished on a regular basis!

Incidentally, the bell was originally cast for the pre dreadnought battleship HMS Hood and given to Admiral Sir Horace Hood who went down with HMS Invincible at Jutland. His widow, Lady Hood made the bell available to the battlecruiser when she was commissioned and is suitably inscribed.
http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/today1.htm

The previous Hood was commissioned in 1891 as a modified Royal Sovereign class with turrets instead of barbettes and consequently had a low freeboard. She was used as a blockship at Portland in 1914 and the wreck can still be seen today.

There is a video dealing with its preservation here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NZn3B0yCiE

Both ships were of course named after Admiral Sir Samuel Hood. (1764-1816)

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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2018, 07:15:29 PM »

Visited the Historic dockyard back in August with the family, mainly to visit the Jutland exhibition, well worth a visit. This is my two lads next to the Hood bell, found it a little emotional, being able to touch the bell from the "Mighty Hood". Very surprised it's on open display and not in a cabinet, as with most exhibits. Jon
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2018, 05:15:37 PM »

I managed to catch up on the programme last night. I was hoping to find out a bit of her story through the Victorian era and to date, but as they seemed to be dwelling longer on Trafalgar I realised it wasn't going to happen.
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2018, 05:47:05 PM »

Wickipedia entry 'HMS Victory' gives her history in detail.
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Re: HMS Victory Thursday
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2018, 07:03:43 PM »

Thank you, I'll look it up. To be honest, it rarely occurs to me to use Wikipedia, must be an age thing.
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