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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2019, 10:34:01 AM »

Making a start when my drives arrive. Then I can work out dimensions for OceanWorks to make intake grills and trim tabs.
I'm not using the Kehrer drives I purchased last year

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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2019, 11:53:41 AM »

Hi Taranis

Any particular reason why you aren't using the Kehrer drives?

I see they are out of stock at moment on Oceanworks but I'm not sure if its a case of them just being out of stock or they make to order.

What has been your experience in purchasing and pricing compared to Kehrer?

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Making a start when my drives arrive. Then I can work out dimensions for OceanWorks to make intake grills and trim tabs.
I'm not using the Kehrer drives I purchased last year
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2019, 01:45:48 PM »


Hi Declan Iím not over enamoured with Kehrer not producing a realistic hamilton reversing bucket when there is clearly a marketing opportunity
I donít especially love the one supplied by Andy either
OceanWorks are revising the jet to a suitable size for me and the Shannon and will be sent to me when victor has tested them
Sales are suspended pending revisions
Buying was easy and delivery a couple of weeks without me receiving import charges on this occasion.


Iíd advise waiting until you see how I get on installing these before spending  :-))
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2019, 09:15:25 AM »

The new design
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2019, 09:40:59 AM »

Looks good.

Saw the photo over on CC's blog. Is the direction thrust controlled by a servo attached to the square block? If so, what's you views on it in terms of sturdiness.

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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2019, 09:46:47 AM »

Itís up to the builder how they achieve function.
Yes itís sturdy
I donít have any experience of the MBD and have it all to discover
Given that access to the stern is limited I would not be mounting servos there and I donít think anyone does in either model

Having said that all may change during construction

Clearly my Speedline is a very different approach with full access
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2019, 10:32:58 AM »

Picture for scale
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2019, 01:40:32 PM »

Like a virgin



Touched for the very first time



















Much more to come from Victor. I'm now committed CUT ONCE!  {-)


Grills in progress
Transom plates and trim tabs discussed
Making buckets left and right handed also discussed


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2019, 03:37:07 PM »

Excellent. Looking forward to more photos!  :-)) :-))

Have to say, I like the paint job inside the hull in the first photograph. I'll be taking a similar approach. Maybe its from my days at helping my brother and cousin building Rally Cars. Engine bay and crew compartment was always sprayed diamond white and scrutineers always loved to see the car coming in as everything was gleaming which made their job of checking it over easier.

Can't say it was clean after the first few stages but still, was always easy to spot water or oil leaks etc. Same logic will apply to all my boats.

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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2019, 04:00:06 PM »

 :-))
Two coats of Hammerite smooth white by brush











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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2019, 04:28:59 PM »

A bonus snippet is..........
Protean/PropShop impellers for Kehrer will fit OceanWorks 28mm jets
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2019, 12:46:38 AM »

Bilge keels fitted. Here is the original MK1 Speedline intake grill which fits very well. I will have to see what Victor produces for me/us
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2019, 09:07:01 PM »

Busy on other things today including boat stuff.
I've started reading Kim's thread for help. A wonderful resource!
Only job today on mine is as per page one according to Kim  :kiss:


To equalise the hull flange all round.  I may get to level the Keel tomorrow or at least reinforce the inside with resin before starting. Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2019, 09:59:11 PM »

Andy,
That is such a neat and orderly Shannon build - a real inspiration and standard for us to aspire to. It's great that we can all benefit from each other, so it was good to read your comments regarding my 'thread'. Maybe it's worth the time invested in producing it. If it was not for this I would not have met Arno and that's the biggest 'reward' I could ever have had through MBM and lifeboats.
I do like the look of your intended water-jets, even though I am satisfied with mine [when I originally saw Andy G's perform at Headcorn a few years back I knew we at least had one set-up that could work effectively and fast!]. However, it is good when there are two or more options when we need equipment and tools. Your 'man' Victor seems to be a real 'gen' guy.
Like you I have spent some good time today in the workshop and might get round to putting my catch up work on my 'thread' later.
Keep up the good work, there are so many MbD Shannons being built, maybe a few other folk could show us their progress on one of our pages here?
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2019, 11:23:42 PM »

Kim I am not even past page 13 of your thread and I can honestly say I will be!/would be struggling without your exceptionally helpful guide.
I believe Victor will come up trumps with the rest of the parts that will make life so much easier for MBD builders.
I expect I will be the first to receive parts as they become available from OceanWorks and I plan to have the hull up and running at the earliest opportunity.
 I already had motors in stock Turnigy SK3 1250KV and from experience with the 1185KV in my other Shannon I know these may be a bit too lively unless I drop to 3S batteries perhaps.
I also already have 50 amp Turnigy Marine ESC's and I know again from experience that these motors don't even reach half their max current at full speed as I was unable to blow 25amp fuses.


I need to get some T bar tomorrow  O0
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2019, 01:02:14 PM »

My local over the road Ironmongers is real cheap. 2metres of T bar was £6.32  :-) 
This is what they had



So using Kim's help here
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,54069.msg572872.html#msg572872


I've fitted the first of three support spars being careful to maintain the width of the stern corners 345mm on mine



However initially it felt a bit too flimsy for my liking so I've bolstered with 50mm of angle using 5 minute epoxy. I had 3mm countersunk screws in stock so used these.


Abrade glued surfaces with course grit






I made note that Kim said the stern has the required camber and if you eye up from behind you can see the required curve. I will put something in the centre at suitable height and bend a length of styrene across the beam to use as a guide for a pencil line

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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2019, 01:28:34 PM »

I love a bit of improv.
Here I've used a scrap of 6mm paxolin clamped central and level with the hull sides



Then laid a 1 metre rule across to copy the stern profile. Rather than deduct the thickness of the rule and pen I will cut to this profile and shim the stretcher down to the right height if necessary





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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2019, 07:27:06 PM »

Nearly finished the stretchers, pictures later.


This is the 20mm nozzle and bucket for my 28mm drives



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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2019, 07:48:51 PM »

Received my Models by design Shannon last week. Just wondering what is the very first step of the build?
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »

I recommend you read Canterbury Coxwain's thread.
Personally I generally start with the running gear and if you go back in my thread you will see the order I do things myself.
I'm doing this live for the first time but saving time thanks to Kim's thread


Stretchers all fitted and shaped. The addition of shims between the fixings also means the T section is deeper and thus proportionally more rigid. The deck fits very well and I'll be screwing it down and trimming around next.








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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2019, 10:14:42 PM »

Very productive day



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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2019, 12:29:56 PM »

Quick job with the right tool. Finish off by hand file.
Donor material for stern hatch provided.
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2019, 02:36:24 PM »

I see many parts in the MBD kit are a direct result of your meticulous work KIM  8)  So another big thank you.
Much of what I've read in your much earlier posts is rendered unnecessary to todays builder and very much saving time  :-) .
P.S. I've asked Chris what he does about stern access
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2019, 03:55:40 PM »

Tidied up



Cabin now follows the deck









To be the third musketeer I'm also modifying the cabin front.  :-))


I'll cut to this side of the line and glue the offcut underneath flush to the edge before glassing in


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2019, 08:14:15 PM »

Easy job
Glassed inside



Ready for filler outside. Soon look like nothing happened


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