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Colin Bishop

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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 06:22:26 pm »

Maybe he was a harbour pilot?
A bit like somewhere like Poole or Portsmouth. You can trundle up to the entrance easily enough but a pilot is often needed within the harbour itself.

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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 11:59:30 pm »

It appears the motorized dog sled just left the walk on boom....in the snow & ice for the next vessel? :o


Boarding a stationary fully loaded 100,000 tonner at sea was a piece of cake  O0



I have only once boarded a 100,000 tonner ...light ship and the water in the Archipelago off Dampier was like a mill pond


What appeared to be about 60 ft up the Pilots rope ladder was just a nerve racking.....as I looked down & the ocean going tug had moved off position so it was up or swim >>:-( ...but then again, I suppose falling 60 ft to the deck of the tug would not have been a good option either
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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 12:51:49 am »

Most of the ports we entered during the 4 cruises we have done required the services of a pilot. During the round Australia voyages we had a pilot for the Great Barrier Reef waters, as well as the Torres Strait at the top of Australia. The waters around the reef are quite tricky and require specialised knowledge. The reef pilot also gave a series of talks on aspects of his job, which I found fascinating, and I had the opportunity to talk with him when I met him by chance in one of the on board shops. One of his previous jobs had been as the master of cross channel ferries between England and France, a vastly busier waterway than the the Barrier Reef passage.


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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 06:45:13 am »

Interesting how some sequences have been speeded up, giving a keystone cops effect as the man walks.


Nice airboat too...a good way to travel


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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 07:54:56 am »

What I meant was, as the ship is surrounded by ice and there is only one clear channel as far as the eye can see, it just seemed pretty pointless the pilot boarding at that point. Its a bit like a slot racing car, the ship can't deviate from the channel just as the slot car can't move out of the groove.
But as we don't get an all round view we don't know how close or far away the actual 'land' is to this boarding point.

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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 08:04:25 am »

Yes, I got that . Maybe there was no point suitable for.boarding later on, or maybe the pilot couldnt get to a closer point.   If it was a pilot of course.  Doesnt the video just call him a man?  I watched in silence and read the texts, so sorry if it is made clear
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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 08:24:45 am »

From zero to 20 seconds.................. the video clearly terms the person as a Pilot O0
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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2018, 08:28:00 am »

A ha...so it does.   I have eyes and see not.


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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 02:31:17 pm »

Many years ago on Lake Superior with pilot on board and bound for Duluth we met the ice edge 30 miles out. Duluth shares a harbour with Superior but both have different entrances. There were two leads in the ice. The pilot chose the northerly lead. The leads separated further as we headed in before converging again and crossing each other. Rather like railway crossings we had to follow the lead we were on and ended up off Superior. We had to enter Superior then make a long sternboard into Duluth harbour crossing state line in the process.
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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 05:05:13 pm »


hi ya, I always thought a ship entering any port required a pilot aboard to satisfy insurance needs, just in case something went wrong.  If a captain took it upon his own self to take the ship into port and anything went wrong - the ship's insurance would be nul and void if something went wrong.   Having had a read on the web today though, I cannot find a reference where insurance is mentioned.  The only thing that is hard and fast is that some countries require a pilot aboard by law - that might explain why we see the ship being boarded by the pilot in the ice passage - due to the fact that the ice passage may just end up in port - which is governed by the law of the pilot :-)


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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 06:04:30 pm »

A pilot isn't always essential John. Individual ports will determine their pilotage requirements which apply to vessels as specified. In general, most larger vessels at large ports will require a pilot unless the captain holds an exemption for that particular port. For example if a port supports a ferry service then masters of ships using that port on a regular basis may qualify for an exemption certificate on the basis that they have the required degree of local knowledge to navigate in or out. The exemption ataches to the individual and not to the ship of course.
However, if the pilot crashes the ship then the master can still be held jointly responsible depending on the circumstances! It can be a bit of a 'catch 22'.

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Re: A pilot boarding a ship
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2018, 09:06:20 pm »

If a vessel crashes the Master is always responsible as a pilot is temporarily hired as a member of the crew with comparable rate of second mate, also the pilot can lose his licence in certain circumstances and when I was last at sea he could only be sued for £1000 max. But the Master is in command and responsible for his vessel at all times, most ports insist on pilots because they are the pilotage responsible authorities and you pay them for the pilotage service.
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