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HMCS Snowberry
« on: September 21, 2007, 10:09:57 PM »

Hi Again, with kind permission from the Wierdroom, I am starting a new build thread of an old classic.  I am new again to modelling and attempting this as my second buid in progress to be installed with RC gear. So, if any of you down-trodden crusty POs want to lend this young(sic) OD who is lost down in the engineering spaces, some of your wisdom and thoughts it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to Voyager and Dicky for the wierdroom ok. So, whether its advise on painting methods or rc gear and installation feel free to drop in.
I am also doing the Bismarck build which is going along quite well, but occupying too much space on the sideboard.
The invitation goes out to all newbie ods like myself, we all have to learn somewhere.
now if I can just sort out this resizer program.....doh
cheers
robert
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 10:11:02 PM »

oh....almost forgot the dog does not bite
robert
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 10:14:58 PM »

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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 10:20:09 PM »

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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2007, 01:13:39 AM »

Here are some photos of two of the Snowberry kits, converted to RC by members of our club, to help inspire you ;)
Happy building,
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2007, 01:27:28 AM »

Just had a thought, for realism why don't you fit a 6v Graupner smoke unit O0 I fitted one of these to an old Bismark model i made some time ago, uses very little power consumption from the battery. If your interested then let me know and i'll PM you the place i get mine from, He sells them for 9.60 + P+P which is by far the cheapest i've seen them for sale.
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 08:19:37 PM »

And a couple of mine to the pot :)
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 09:57:54 PM »

And a couple of mine O0
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 10:15:15 PM »

Metcalf Mouldings do a GRP hull, may be worth considering for a working model;
http://business.virgin.net/metcalf.mouldings/catalogue.htm
See under HULS; OTHER HULLS.
Also take a long while to browse here;
http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/contents.htm
A wealth of info on that site.
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 11:29:41 PM »

 O0cheers for all the information and links that you have provided. i believe i have found my sea leg and can proceed withh a fair amount of knowledge as to how dep the water is. have to seal the hull and give her a float test this weekend, might give the dog a bath while im at it.
thanks again gents, will no doubt talk again soon
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 01:49:17 PM »

Hi There Robert

If you are intersted I can supply you with a copy of the article I wrote for marine modelling in 2003 which covers the buliding of my Corvette Acanthus. K01
It might be useful to get you underway so to speak! - There is a picture of it on Mayhem see "site updates" 11 May 2007 

If it is any help to you at this stage I can tell you it runs very well on the following set up:

Fleet 40Mhz Radio Gear
FPS 24B 6 volt speed controller (sadly now I think unavailable)
Yuasa 6 volt 4 amp hour gell cell
Electronize 545-12 low revving low drain motor (loads of torque and scale speed with a bit in reservre)
3 bladed 30mm brass prop

The model is ballested deep as you may notice by the picture if you look, but this gives the model some real stability when its needed as they can look quite toy like when they jump about too much in choppy water, do not be afraid to leave freeing ports along the main deck open along with the stern openings for the depth charges this does not create any problems - but ensure you raise the coaming around the aperture that holds the rear superstructure in place, this WILL keep the water out!   

Good luck with the project let me know if you would like the article.

Mark
 
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2008, 10:57:10 PM »

Well after the successful launch of the RTTL Vosper, I decided it was  my nwly acquired skills to use and pulled thebox down off the wardrobe, much to the pleasure of the other half.
I had glue and sealed the hull last fall and much to my chagrin discovered the sealant I had naively used had dried hull. Meaning I was able to completely pull it all out. No worries as I know better now and when I epoxy the propeller shaft in I'll epoxy all the joint seams again.
I have washed all the sprue trees in the tub and primed them with grey primer. Little tips like these were not known to me and its amazing how well paint adheres on primer, doh :D.
So no real photo ops yet and June is a busy month around ours with 3 kids and 3 birthdays, mmmm bbq.
Hopefully will have rc install done by end of June and then will give her some sea trials. O0
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 08:09:41 PM »

HMS Jonquil
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 09:56:44 AM »

Thanks Tom,

Any other photos showing interior rc set up and removeable parts would be gratefully appreciated, as I lost some when our old pc crashed. Terrible mess, wires and chips everywhere, had to get the salt and vinegar out :D
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 11:10:12 AM »

Hi Robert dont know if this will be any help.
With a 6" prop shaft you can put your battery in front of the motor with the ESC, fuse and the Rx fixed to the hull port and starboard.
The servo is fixed near the rudder.
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 01:34:22 PM »

Hmmm, just wondering if I could get away with it...thanks for those Richard. I'll wait til I get my gear installed Question, on your flower, I take it the foredeck and aft engine room covering are attached to be removed as one piece? If so, do you secure this while sailing her or does it just sit in place by weight?
I'm sure I'll have a few more questions as I go along.
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 01:44:03 PM »

The top is a tight fit and it is tied to the hull, mind you it would not take much to fit a magnetic catch or similar. O0
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2008, 10:33:44 PM »

Sort of lost my train of thought in last post :D. What I meant to say, and I believe Richard picked up on my omission was to just have the engine room casing as the removeable section. Test fitted a 6volt SLA battery and slides through fairly easily. So with some fitting this should be possible, the only discrepency would be in the rigging and on this subject, some flowers I've seen have none or have the foredeck joined to the engine room casing with the rigging complete. Any thoughts on this or should I use some artistic license?
My next question is regards the propeller itself, when I took the kit one with me to a local hobby shop, we sussed it to be 40mm and LH, is this correct and what did the rest of you use?
Sun must be getting to me or the paint fumes from painting the kitchen, finally.
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2008, 10:58:57 PM »


Rob,

You're almost inspiring me to get my Revell Corvette finished!  - Almost :)

Richard. thanks for showing the deck plan of your Corvette - It's helped me with a niggle that's been bugging me for months :)

Regards all,

-Rob
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2008, 11:06:34 PM »

Didn't we discus this last year and you were in the midst of moving?
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2008, 08:33:02 AM »


My next question is regards the propeller itself, when I took the kit one with me to a local hobby shop, we sussed it to be 40mm and LH, is this correct and what did the rest of you use?
Sun must be getting to me or the paint fumes from painting the kitchen, finally.
Hi Robert I used a brass propeller exactly the same as the kit one.
I also used the kit rudder bonded to a small bought one.
You might find that if you just have the engine room superstructure removable it might be a bit of a struggle to get all your weight in the right place. Remember to ballast to the waterline.  O0
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2008, 09:45:50 AM »

I used the plastic one in the kit!  :o
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2008, 10:05:22 AM »

Cheapskate  ;)
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Re: HMCS Snowberry
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2008, 10:51:28 AM »


That's my middle name!   O0

Actually I did it as a stopgap until I bought a nice brass one but it worked so well I didn't bother changing it.
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2008, 02:44:02 PM »

Rudder epoxied together, worked a charm. Hi Martin, waiting on brass propeller, a kit this good deserves a decent propeller.
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