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richardabeattie

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ESC advice please
« on: November 01, 2018, 09:15:57 pm »

I am restoring a Deans Marine HMS Kelly.  It has two Deans Marine Kondor motors powered by a 7.2V battery pack driving two 35mm props.  I want to fit a single ESC - no need to control each motor separately.  So my three questions are:


Which Mtronics ESC to fit? - I have a Viper 15 but that may not be suitable.
What value of fuse?
Should the fuse go between the battery and the ESC or between the ESC and the motors?


Grateful for advice.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 10:54:57 pm »

Hi Richard you need to know the characteristics of the motors this will determine what size  speedo you will need. Reference the fuse you can fit between the battery and speedo or between the speedo and motors I personally use both methods.The fuse value for example if you fit a 25 amp speedo then a 20 amp would fine. But like I said in my pm to you speak to Ron Dean he will be able to answer all your questions.


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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 11:32:07 pm »

The Viper 15 is fine for 2 kondor motors, together they will only draw no more than 3 amps. I would fit a 10 amp fuse between the battery and the ESC, that way any electrical problems will blow the fuse before the ESC gets damaged..
  If you want belt and braces, you can fit another fuse between the motors and ESC, but I've never bothered with that.
  I hope the rebuild goes well, it's a fine ship and a fine model.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2018, 09:08:41 am »

What Chas said.
10A feeding the ESC, 5A in each motor feed from the ESC.  That way, if anything happens to one motor, you still have the other.  Not needed on a single motor setup, as the ESC should do its own current limiting.  Having the fuses there also makes any problem finding easier.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2018, 09:24:39 am »

As stated above, better safe than sorry.


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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2018, 01:19:48 pm »

Thanks everybody.  So the Viper 15 should be OK and if there's only one fuse it should go between the battery and the ESC.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2018, 01:21:31 pm »

Should have ack'd the advice that additional 5 amp fuses between the ESC and the motors is also sensible.  Thanks again.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2018, 03:31:34 pm »

Simple answer yes. Should both fuses on the speedos pop then you are left with no motors  but if only on goes and the main fuse from the battery is still intact  you will be able to get your model back. Should the main fuse  go this will kill all your electronics in your model if you are powering  them via the B E C in you speed controller.

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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2018, 05:15:13 pm »

HI thought you might like this one speed Control doing 3 motors the speed controller is way over size but had one spare. And 4 motors  two 10 amp  speed controllers.

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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2018, 06:19:34 pm »

Horribly impressive.  My problem is not knowing what bits of kit are compatible with each other. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2018, 09:41:17 am »

Horribly impressive.  My problem is not knowing what bits of kit are compatible with each other.
A bit like the Hitch-Hikers Guide, not totally accurate, but near enough.


The battery/motor/ESC rules are fairly simple.
The battery needs to fit in the boat, hopefully it will be capable of doing its job.
The motor should say that it can handle a few more volts than the battery can give. (safety margin)
The ESC should be able to run on that same battery. (same safety margin consideration)
Under load, the motor will draw current, the ESC should be rated to handle considerably more.  (Honest rating, NOT 320A)  Motors in parallel, even after adding together, need a bit more headroom as regards what the ESC will be able to offer them.
The load on the motor will be decided by the prop.  Too much prop, motor becomes a heater and rapid battery drainer rather than a driver.


Simple prop rules
For any brushed motor on direct drive, the prop diameter should be smaller than the can diameter.
The prop should not have more blades than the motor has poles.
Gearing does change this, you can use a smaller diameter motor and/or a prop with more blades.
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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2018, 08:27:08 pm »

Stan, can you let me know where you obtained those blade fuse holders? Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2018, 09:08:38 pm »

Hi Captain you can obtain these from Component Shop singles or doubles. They have holes on the board to allow fixing and terminal blocks for cable connections. One further plus they have L E D fitted on the boards to show forward and reverse. You can see these on the Action web site the Action code is project 95 the one in the picture is very old and came from a car shop hope this helps.




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Re: ESC advice please
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2018, 11:47:36 am »

Thanks very much for your reply.
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