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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #150 on: August 09, 2019, 12:59:30 PM »

I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #151 on: August 09, 2019, 02:36:41 PM »

I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.

 
HI Akira  well from what  Ive seen so far the armour  plateing is a lot  thicker an as you say at the W/L an below an that's what my plan shows. But from phot;s  of the real ship its different so I think I will go with my plans  on that many thanks for your intrest
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #152 on: August 09, 2019, 06:01:04 PM »

Hi Chris, I agree. Go with your plan. There is a nice photo of Tiger as completed, circa 1959, on pgs 294-295 of "British Cruisers, Two World Wars and After" by Norman Friedman. It shows her belt rather clearly. If you send me an e-mail address, I' try to scan them and send them to you, if you like.
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #153 on: August 09, 2019, 06:52:28 PM »

Hi Chris, I agree. Go with your plan. There is a nice photo of Tiger as completed, circa 1959, on pgs 294-295 of "British Cruisers, Two World Wars and After" by Norman Friedman. It shows her belt rather clearly. If you send me an e-mail address, I' try to scan them and send them to you, if you like.

HI   Akira  gmail sent
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #154 on: August 09, 2019, 07:37:44 PM »

Chris, On their way.Jonathan
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #155 on: August 15, 2019, 07:11:52 PM »


HI ALL
the build continuses in the first pic ive just finished paintin the hull sandin sealer an sanded it all down boy what a job an the pong
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #156 on: August 15, 2019, 07:14:54 PM »


here im now getting ready to spray the rear section in grey primer
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #157 on: August 15, 2019, 07:16:38 PM »


An now well under way sprayin
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #158 on: August 15, 2019, 07:17:47 PM »

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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #159 on: August 15, 2019, 07:21:48 PM »


AN done an its come up better than I expected :-)) as the primer will show up any little cracks so to fill an sand down   :-)
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #160 on: August 15, 2019, 07:23:20 PM »


Now the front section
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #161 on: August 15, 2019, 07:27:22 PM »


AN  "xxxxx" >>:-( im nr out of paint I thought a 500ml spray would go further that this  >>:-( <*< only half done
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #162 on: August 15, 2019, 07:34:51 PM »


AN yes I did run out of primer >>:-( will have to go an get some more tomorrow an had to stand them in the shed as swmbo said youre not bringin that smelly paint indoors so i'll proberlly sleep with it in the shed tonight  :-)) %) lol {-)
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #163 on: August 18, 2019, 04:03:09 PM »




Which images do you refer to? I can find none that have "dished" in plates apart from the normal ships plating, the armour belt defo does not have that feature at all. Also if you look at KGV class the armour comes up same as Tigers.


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I hope this is not considered dumb or rude, but regarding the "armour" plating referenced in the preceding photo. 1) For armour plating, why is it mounted so high on the hull? All other capital ships I've seen mount armour just above to well below the waterline. In fact in the photo, it appears to be mounted above what I would "assume" to be her armoured deck. 2) The photo shows that this plating is dished to much the same degree as the hull plating which leads me to believe that it is 1) soft steel, 2) not hardened plate.
To me this appears much more like hull strengthening strakes, very similar to those applied to Japanese cruisers and destroyers following the Fleet incident that showed up the longitudinal weakness of their design.
I realize that this is, in a way a moot point. The real point being to add detail to the hull, which will look fantastic, so please bear with my inquiring mind.
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #164 on: August 18, 2019, 04:49:56 PM »

HI ALL
the build continuses in the first pic ive just finished paintin the hull sandin sealer an sanded it all down boy what a job an the pong
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #165 on: August 18, 2019, 04:53:08 PM »

AN done an its come up better than I expected :-)) as the primer will show up any little cracks so to fill an sand down   :-)
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #166 on: August 18, 2019, 05:20:12 PM »


Cheers Andy for pics upload  :-))
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« Reply #167 on: August 18, 2019, 05:22:49 PM »


Bob PM sent regards pics of the deck  recess
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #168 on: August 18, 2019, 05:41:42 PM »


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Hope these explain it for you, took me a couple of goes to get it right  :} :}


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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #169 on: August 18, 2019, 05:59:47 PM »


HI Bob many thanks you the man yes you've hit the nail on the head they are just the pics I was lookin for :-)) . As on my plans there are so many line' s running into one another its a night mare >>:-( <*< an im used to big plan after building my Nimitz carrier but I think this tiger build is  harder an more complex . An it looks like im gonna have to cut the hull side to allow the boats recess cheers an its gonna be a devil  >>:-( to try an do a 45/degree bevel on the armour plate belt will see how it goes all best  :-))
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #170 on: August 18, 2019, 06:07:47 PM »


AN  Bob lookin at the pics yourve just posted it helps me to clayifiy the armour belt better  :-))
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« Reply #171 on: August 18, 2019, 06:28:24 PM »

Nice work Chris. :-))
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Re: BOATMANS HMS TIGER C20 SCRATCHBUILD IN 1/72 SCALE
« Reply #173 on: August 19, 2019, 12:36:40 PM »


HI Bob well ive just laid the armour belt on the hull dead where it should go regards the hull joint does it look about right ? as this is how it shows on my plans
an im now goin to take the a/belt out into shed to sand the edges of it to 45/degress this  is the starboard side
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