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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2350 on: October 10, 2023, 08:54:55 am »

an some closer pics thank goodness an her bowwave is lookin nice like her propwash was an for once i was happy with the model
https://ibb.co/k24n7zn
an this was about about half throttle
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an last pic as this was when she started to play up when i openened up the throttle so i then took her off the pond an just put her on display for the public an there was quite a bit of intrest in the ship an phone photos galore an some chap sorry dint hear his name said he was videoin her to put on Norwich model boat club site an i havnt looked yet
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2351 on: October 10, 2023, 12:27:26 pm »

She looks very realistic underway Chris. Just those last little tweaks to fix the things you're not 100% happy with and you'll be home and dry.
Well done Sir.
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2352 on: October 10, 2023, 01:52:04 pm »

Hi Chris

Both pleased and sorry for you that Tiger sailed well, but with ESC issues, so  >>:-( >>:-(
Howels Models do this servo, bit pricey at £38.99


HI Dave well I popped  to my local model shop an bought a heavy duty servo that will push up to 15 k/g for £15 .99 an its got all metal gears an water proff so i will try that an see when i can
ATB SIR
CHRISB :-))


The HS-805 uses a heavy duty nylon gear train and a heavy duty 10mm 15 tooth output shaft. The HS-805BB develops enough torque to move just about anything, be it a big plane, boat, or Car.

I found this on eBay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324017324641?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749368&toolid=20006&customid=GB_220_324017324641.140118387062~1871005637659-g_EAIaIQobChMIz7Lv9c_qgQMVg7jtCh0DrgWREAQYBiABEgImPfD_BwE
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2353 on: October 10, 2023, 01:55:35 pm »

She looks very realistic underway Chris. Just those last little tweaks to fix the things you're not 100% happy with and you'll be home and dry.
Well done Sir.
Nige


an cheers Nige im glad you like her as yes im pleased at how she turned out an she had plenty of people around her up the pond as i was amused as they all kept callin her a battleship O0 %) [size=78%] an i said no she's a light helicopter crusier lol[/size]
cheers for your reply sir  :-))
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2354 on: October 10, 2023, 04:33:35 pm »

Very very sleek and busy looking! Worth the hundreds of hours you have put into her Chris.
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2355 on: October 10, 2023, 07:05:58 pm »


Very very sleek and busy looking! Worth the hundreds of hours you have put into her Chris.



HI [size=78%]ballastanksian THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR yes there is hundreds of hrs but they were very enjoyable hrs but still got to sort out some isuses on her but will do that after a 2 day model show at the end of the month then i will set about her an show her who is boss lol[/size]
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2356 on: October 11, 2023, 02:01:13 pm »

Wonderful Chris. She looks beautiful, as does your "test tank" So glad that your propulsion plant issues appear to be sorted out.
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2357 on: October 11, 2023, 02:34:45 pm »

Wonderful Chris. She looks beautiful, as does your "test tank" So glad that your propulsion plant issues appear to be sorted out.


HI AKira thanks for the kind words Sir an yes she sailed ok but the propulsion plant went ok for a while then went very strange an the rear props kept givin ahead but the outer props went into astern  when i had the throttle set for goin ahead so ive got to sort out why it did that maybe the ESC is givin trouble or faulty will see on that soon when i can get the time
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2358 on: October 11, 2023, 05:12:01 pm »

Chris recently had same thing on Phoebe, nothing to do with esc in my case down to signal, affecting rx, usually when the passenger boats come in their radios walk all over out 2.4 signal,  I know you are in a paddling pool type water so could be anything, just so you know its not just you {-)


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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2359 on: October 11, 2023, 06:18:49 pm »

Chris recently had same thing on Phoebe, nothing to do with esc in my case down to signal, affecting rx, usually when the passenger boats come in their radios walk all over out 2.4 signal,  I know you are in a paddling pool type water so could be anything, just so you know its not just you {-)


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HI Bob  well im goin to experiment by removein that ESC that was workin the outer props in astern an have all 4 motors goin through one ESC as it should take the power as its rated at 320 amps so will try that as that way all motors will have to go the same way an how are you keepin sir ?  as i have been lookin at your phoebe an not seen much on your progress
atb sir
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2360 on: October 11, 2023, 06:30:21 pm »

Keeping well Chris, loads of progress on Phobe and Victorious


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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2361 on: October 11, 2023, 09:31:36 pm »

Keeping well Chris, loads of progress on Phobe and Victorious


Bob


OK Bob any chance seein some pics sir ?
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2362 on: October 12, 2023, 09:12:26 pm »

Is the ESC a chinese one rated at 320 amps?


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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2363 on: October 12, 2023, 09:25:25 pm »

I can't make it to the Lowestoft show this time around Chris which is a shame really but it's too close to family things. I'll keep my eyes peeled for other shows though.  :-))


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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2364 on: October 12, 2023, 09:33:11 pm »

Is the ESC a chinese one rated at 320 amps?


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yes it is shipmate why ?
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2365 on: October 12, 2023, 09:34:14 pm »

I can't make it to the Lowestoft show this time around Chris which is a shame really but it's too close to family things. I'll keep my eyes peeled for other shows though.  :-))


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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2366 on: October 13, 2023, 11:34:26 am »

HI GUYS well ive still got eletric probs regards them ESC NOW IM JUST askin your advise guys  now ive found with them big motors in that they dont like to power two motors from one 320 amp esc so im now goin to try one esc per motor so all in it will be 4 esc one each to power one motor so on the r/c wire where i take out a red wire with 2 esc but now im hopein to have 4 esc in do i remove 3 red wires an leave just one in ? i hope this is understandable ? :((
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« Reply #2367 on: October 13, 2023, 01:44:10 pm »

Chris, You have said that your rear prop would being going ahead, but your outer props would go astern?( something like that) It sounds like you have your two inboard motors wired to one ESC and your two outboard motors wired to the second ESC, is that correct?
If so, I have had a similar situation. I am using a FrSky with Open TX. I found that is my servo output is at maximum, the control signal from the receiver is too much for the ESC and the ESC, upon reaching full throttle, goes into reverse. I solved this by reducing the servo output range in the transmitter.I would be very surprised if two of your motors maxed out a 320 amp ESC, but then again, Chinese rating are no what they seem.Good luck.Jonathan
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« Reply #2368 on: October 13, 2023, 06:58:16 pm »

Chris, You have said that your rear prop would being going ahead, but your outer props would go astern?( something like that) It sounds like you have your two inboard motors wired to one ESC and your two outboard motors wired to the second ESC, is that correct?
If so, I have had a similar situation. I am using a FrSky with Open TX. I found that is my servo output is at maximum, the control signal from the receiver is too much for the ESC and the ESC, upon reaching full throttle, goes into reverse. I solved this by reducing the servo output range in the transmitter.I would be very surprised if two of your motors maxed out a 320 amp ESC, but then again, Chinese rating are no what they seem.Good luck.Jonathan


HI Akria yes the first bit is right an that happened which it should not
an how i have the motors wired up now the back two nearest the rudder are wired through the rear ESC
an the last two motors are wired THROUGH the the futherst to the front ESC OK AN yes my T/X is at full servo rateting but i can reduce it  to say about 80% by setting the dual rates in the T/X so thats what im goin to do as it seems to much power is goin through an im goin to fit 35 amp fuses an not 40amp an then try it when the new ESC 's come but i have taken the old ESC an repaired them by fittin in them new wirein that goes to the R/X but im just keepin them as spares  so if i use 4 X esc one to power each motor do i take out 3 red wires an leave one in to power the R/X ?
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2369 on: October 13, 2023, 11:11:09 pm »

Chris,Whenever you use multiple ESC's and one of them supplying power to the receiver, as a BEC, then the power leads to all the other ESC's need to be removed(taped off) so that they do not connect to your receiver. It does not matter how many ESC's are involved, as long as we are talking about more than one.
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2370 on: October 14, 2023, 09:49:13 am »

Chris,Whenever you use multiple ESC's and one of them supplying power to the receiver, as a BEC, then the power leads to all the other ESC's need to be removed(taped off) so that they do not connect to your receiver. It does not matter how many ESC's are involved, as long as we are talking about more than one.
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HI Jonathan AH thats the answer i been hopein for many thanks Sir
as i  cant understand why this problem has happened as them R,X WIRES are not supposed to carry more than 6v to the R/X all i can think of is a faulty ESC as they do come from china so maybe thats where im goin wrong as this is the first time i have used this BECC system an i must say im not impressed at all as on all my other ship ive used ELETRONISE ESC an they have been no problems but now the gent has closed down the company its sad as all that knowlege an exspertise has been lost forever what a shame pity he dint sell it 
SO SIR MANY THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY an thats what i will do when the new ESC's arrive
cheers ATB TO YOU SIR an you have made me very happy as i must admit i felt like jumpin on tiger lol but i know my work on building tiger is sound its just this eletronics thats lettin me down Aaaarrcchhh
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2371 on: October 14, 2023, 10:03:21 am »

Chris, You have said that your rear prop would being going ahead, but your outer props would go astern?( something like that) It sounds like you have your two inboard motors wired to one ESC and your two outboard motors wired to the second ESC, is that correct?
If so, I have had a similar situation. I am using a FrSky with Open TX. I found that is my servo output is at maximum, the control signal from the receiver is too much for the ESC and the ESC, upon reaching full throttle, goes into reverse. I solved this by reducing the servo output range in the transmitter.I would be very surprised if two of your motors maxed out a 320 amp ESC, but then again, Chinese rating are no what they seem.Good luck.Jonathan


HI again Jonathan yes when i get them new ESC 's fitted im goin to try an cut the power of the servo throw on the throttle by usein them
daul rates down to about 80% as its in my instoction booklet  so will try that thank you sir
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Re: Chris' HMS TIGER (C20) - 1:72 SCALE
« Reply #2372 on: October 14, 2023, 10:43:34 am »

Sorry to take so long to answer but those Chinese ESC wont handle anywhere near 320 amps, just chech the wiring on them. WE have been using them for years and have become wary of rge voltage and tend to use them as fairly dispposable unless on 6 volts and fairly low current cunsumption motors.


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« Reply #2373 on: October 14, 2023, 11:24:51 am »

Sorry to take so long to answer but those Chinese ESC wont handle anywhere near 320 amps, just chech the wiring on them. WE have been using them for years and have become wary of rge voltage and tend to use them as fairly dispposable unless on 6 volts and fairly low current cunsumption motors.


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HI Bob ok thanks  i'll bear that in mind as that may be my trouble but pity you dint tell me sooner as ive sent for some more but at higher ratein but not your fault sir but thanks for tellin me trouble is near everything is now made in china isnt it ?
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« Reply #2374 on: October 14, 2023, 04:49:59 pm »

Hi Chris. Have never knowingly used Chinese Esc. Mtroniks for me. Elektonise we’re ok but the size of the things
Solve the problem of Phoebe props doing similar to yours, down to duff battery. New battery fitted and the 2 Esc do all they are meant to
Did not want hassle as getting ready for Hereford engineering Halloween show end of month
Keep at it Chris you will sort it
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