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Klunk

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d day invasion stripes
« on: July 03, 2019, 07:01:00 AM »

having a lovely argument on line with not a nice person about invasion stripes, he maintains they were masked and painted, I have pictures of RAF personell just hand painting them with brushes and in 1 picture a broom. he also says their is a defined line, again not in any of the pics Ive seen! any opinions????
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2019, 07:49:20 AM »

Klunk, are the guys in the photos actually painting them On or could they be painting over the stripes following the operation?
... it's just a thought 🤔.


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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2019, 08:41:38 AM »

painting on.
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2019, 08:46:33 AM »

Hmmm, further research needed then.


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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2019, 08:52:45 AM »

I concur about the use of a yard brush to paint the stripes. There are a number of pics around showing just that happening.

Close up pics of some of the aircraft involved show almost NO signs of masking, wavy borders like that would get you marked down for poor painting in almost any model contest!
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 09:12:20 AM »

Wikipedia suggests both. And we know Wikipedia is 100% accurate, so sounds like both are right. LoL
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 09:19:11 AM »

From my research they did both, some were applied that quickly at short notice that they were not only wobbly but not of equal bands either. It was a quick recognition system which was applied in less than a week and in some circumstances only over night!
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 09:49:17 AM »

If the stripes were put on in a factory as part of the original paint job, masking would have happened, but probably involving sheets of plywood as a stencil rather than tape.  They tended to have paint spraying equipment in factories.  In the field, a totally different set of circumstances.  A straight edge might have been involved, application could have been brush or broom.  It was wartime and the job didn't get held over until perfection could be achieved.  What was to hand on site got used.
In my time I've seen Post Office vans repainted using a roller on the flat panels.  And if the painter is talented, it is surprising what can be done with a brush.  When fitting a switchboard at a local transport company (BVT) about 1964, I witnessed their painter putting their logo on a new trailer.  It was a 6 foot image of the Tower, all done by hand and eye, took him under an hour each side. 
Painting stripes reasonably straight and of uniform width would be no problem given a brush with enough bristles and a long enough handle.  And a sergeant looking over you.
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2019, 09:57:27 AM »

I've seen picture of stripes being painted free hand and following chalk lines.  I have to confess that I've never seen a picture of them being masked with tape.  That's not to say it didn't happen! 
The first picture may show tape being used but it could also be a chalk line either way it's sloppy.
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2019, 10:22:06 AM »

having a lovely argument on line with not a nice person ...


The Meta-answer to this is: they may just be trolling you to see the steam come out of your ears. You've got photo evidence. They are talking poo. I wouldn't waste my time on them.


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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2019, 10:46:08 AM »

no, this bloke is deadly serious. he is a plastic modeller from Spain
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2019, 12:48:30 PM »

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no, this bloke is deadly serious. he is a plastic modeller from Spain

Not a real one then!  %)

If he won't accept photographic evidence then no point in continuing the 'discussion'.

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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2019, 12:40:31 AM »

I recently watched a documentary series called "That's All Brother, the plane that led the Normandy invasion" and some of the historic footage included in the film showed men painting the invasion stripes on C47s using brooms and/or very large brushes. The stripes were added so the allied forces in Normandy could tell friend from foe, and were done hurriedly prior to the invasion. When the C47, That's All Brother, was restored and repainted, the stripes were applied in a similar fashion to achieve authenticity.


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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2019, 01:17:27 AM »

I knew I had seen a documentary about it, thanks Peter! will dig it out from my PC. I know it's on there somewhere!
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Re: d day invasion stripes
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2019, 12:53:50 PM »

You're going to lose don't bother if it's a regular forum you visit put him on ignore and leave it. I've seen arguments of this sort before the markings were applied hurriedly then tidied up then partially removed then totally removed.
Do you want me to point you to an eight page thread on the spacing of bolts round the rim of a panther tank wheel - life's too short :-))
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