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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2019, 03:05:39 pm »

This cuts quite deep when I have supported them for over 40 years, although i may now divert my contributions direct to my station of choice.
Still full of admiration for our volunteer crews and thankless support for the countless fundraisers.


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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2019, 03:07:22 pm »

Donít stations divert money raised directly back to ivory tower HQ?

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2019, 03:27:39 pm »

If you donate to the Crew Comforts Fund at the station of your choice, the money is used directly by
the station for amenities for the station that the
RNLI don't fund.


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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2019, 03:29:02 pm »

Thank you Ned I did not know that  :-))

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2019, 03:36:40 pm »

Nor did I.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2019, 03:39:37 pm »

Kinmel mentioned it at the start of this thread.


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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2019, 03:49:20 pm »

I had a quiet word with the Station's Treasurer and then I set up a monthly Direct Debit for a modest sum. Such things are frowned upon by Poole, but nowhere does the account mention the RNLI and since it is invisible it clearly cannot exist.
 
I don't think these account hold a lot of money, but what is there is of direct benefit to the crew and nothing else.




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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2019, 04:08:14 pm »

Your mention of "if anything left after the nursing home" got me thinking:


I wonder how many more people would leave money to charity if they could put it in their will that, say, 10% of their estate at the time they went into care was a bequest?  The money could be set aside and held in trust, and not counted towards care costs. The state/local authority would start paying for care when the estate dropped to the threshold (£16k I think) plus the value of the bequest. Upon their death, the money held in trust would be paid to the charity.


Bit of a gamble on longevity, but the chances are the money runs out, and the dependents don't lose because the money was "taken" up front. If the person dies early into their stay in a care home, the dependents lose out to a maximum of 10%.




Thats the worst thing one can do is leave a percentage to any charity. My mate  (a widower)and neighbour did this  and as soon as the charity knew  Virtually  the next day  they were round doing an inventory they insisted on 3 valuations on the property and  it HAD to  go to the max  price . The family were only just getting around the loss of their mum but these  people were like  vultures. By all means leave something to charity but  fixed amount
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2019, 04:52:36 pm »

I can echo from family experience that a relative leaving money to charity in a will can be a dreadful experience, they want their money. I suspect the solicitors made money from all the letters exchanged. As for the RNLI buying burkinis when laying off staff  >>:-(
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2019, 07:50:20 pm »

and now they provide a ferry service is the south east of the UK .
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2019, 11:32:43 am »

Isnít there a rule in charity law that if you define what your donation is to be spent on, then it can only be used for that purpose? For example, if you donate £100 and say it must be spent on crew kit for the Salcombe lifeboat, then it can only be used for that purpose?


From what Iíve heard the money sent abroad was sent after a fundraising campaign for that very purpose, i.e. the people who donated the money that went over did so in full knowledge, but it still doesnít excuse the RNLI from focusing their attention away from their core aim.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2019, 04:17:53 pm »

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/16/rnli-donations-surge-tory-criticism-work-overseas-lifeboat-charity


Well worth a read as it discusses the RNLI policy on supporting overseas initiatives.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2019, 05:01:57 pm »

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2019, 06:28:14 pm »

I heard on the Beeb today that the RNLI has reported a spike in donations, even after the story about burkinis (whatever they are). That may or may not turn out to be fake news.... Any publicity is good publicity, perhaps?
In the meantime we should all continue to support those brave volunteers who are on alert 24/7, in the knowledge that if we stop doing so for whatever reason then they won't be there to save lives at sea - which is what it's all about.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2019, 06:56:54 pm »

I have seen this coming for a long time, Charity begins at home and the other one, Cut your cloth according to your means. The CEO on nearly £200 k , how many jobs would that pay for, it is a disgrace, nemesis
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2019, 06:58:58 pm »

The £3.3M they are wasting overseas would pay £25k salary for each of the 135 people they are shedding.    Nice to know what their priorities are.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2019, 07:21:04 pm »

I doubt that the foreign aid publicity and the spike in donations are connected. Time will tell but I think they are miscalculating public opinion

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2019, 07:30:19 pm »

I have seen this coming for a long time, Charity begins at home and the other one, Cut your cloth according to your means. The CEO on nearly £200 k , how many jobs would that pay for, it is a disgrace, nemesis

Presumably you want an effective, experienced CEO for an organisation like the RNLI or any charity - why would not expect to pay market rate for this role?

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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2019, 08:53:39 pm »

Presumably you want an effective, experienced CEO for an organisation like the RNLI or any charity - why would not expect to pay market rate for this role?

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Yes but ceo have over inflated there pay packets and not dilivered . This is across the board ,banks charites public sector the list goes on. High pay does not equeal high intelegence .  Banks , KodaK ,Woolworths just to name a few and of course we can forget the classic Ratner . Sorry not sean a case for high pay in years . You can find the same  skill for a lot less . Most CEO have advisores so dont have to do much work

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2019, 09:01:08 pm »

I tend to agree that salaries in excess of that for running the country are open to ridicule

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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2019, 09:06:44 pm »

This is just an administration role - he doesn't create anything - they just allocate spending of the money they're given.    Even the PM's salary is only £160k.
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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2019, 09:39:39 pm »

Wow - can of worms!

Not one CEO delivering value for their exorbitant salary - really?

"Just administration, doesn't create anything" - no strategic leadership - really?

I agree that the PM role @ £160k is way out of touch with business - not a good role to benchmark against - should be a lot more

I also wonder if some of you are in touch with the types of pay rates that happen in 2019 "junior/middle" management roles let alone senior roles

Just my tuppence

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« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2019, 07:09:10 am »

Why does a simple service with basic money in, money out suddenly need 'strategic vision'?    Or blue-sky thinking or goal-oriented empowerment and synchronous strategies?     It's all BS - it's exactly the same thinking that has filled councils with all sorts of non-jobs and why local services are so bad.     Everyone loves to spend other people's money on themselves.   If the guys on the boats are doing it for free, the very least the top management should be doing is giving their time for free.   There's plenty of excellent ex-managers giving their time for free as trustees of other charities - what makes these parasites so special?
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« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2019, 08:21:49 am »

Or of course pay the ships crews a market led wage.
If you need this for management why not the people who actually deliver the service?
On call 24/7 365 days a year I would guess £49k average ships crew.
Why are management paid enormous sums of monew but not the crews.
Sorry it makes me annoyed.


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Re: RNLI Cuts
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2019, 08:45:04 am »

Talking about overpayments to CEO's!


Here in Aus they have just advised of the excessive payments to the top few CEO's in the country, and the bloke that comes out on top is the CEO of Qantas.
His total package comes in at over 23 million! That's correct, over 23 million! Nobody in any job is worth that sort of money in my opinion.
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