TonyH many thanks buddy I have emailed them and have a response already quick reply have a couple sets of plans coming over to look at, keen to start the research side of things now camo colors etc. Mine will be 1943/44 era 1/6 th scale animation crew from Churchill Creations Vierlflak 4 barrel 2cm aft of wheelhouse 3.7 cm on fwd bandstand a d a couple of 2cm on deck port and stb midships, interesting thing the Germans called them the door knocker spoke with a a old RAF Beaufort pilot he said they use to rattle the plane when hit so some door knocker indeed. Water ballast to get her down to her marks good timber build. Something different on the water tassie48