Topic: Huntsman or Swordsman ? (Read 4093 times)

Sparrow · « **on:** December 19, 2019, 06:25:31 pm »

Please can someone tell me which is which as both are called the same name or is it the same boat modified over the years . Thanks peter.

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2019, 06:36:10 pm »

Very different boats and I'm sure Dave Milbourn will be on to emphasise this.

The Huntsman is the speed merchant, the Swordsman is somewhat larger and beamier. I have/am building the SLEC kits. My Huntsman was reviewed in Model Boats magazine and I am currently putting the finishing touches to the Swordsman.

If you Google Fairey Huntsman and Fairey Swordsman you can se that the two boats come from the same stable but are signifiantly different. As is their stablemate the Fairey Huntress.

Colin

SailorGreg · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2019, 06:43:14 pm »

See this can of worms? Do you have a can opener?

They are basically the same hull, although both were built in different sizes (Huntsman 28, 31, Swordsman 33, 42 - and the Super Swordsman) and both had differing cabin configurations, some with a rear cabin and some without. To the untrained eye it can be difficult to tell the difference, but there are some well trained eyes on Mayhem who might be able to clarify the situation. I hope!

Good luck

Greg

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2019, 06:53:45 pm »

The big difference is that the Swordsman is a lot wider than the Huntsman and the two kits reflect this.

All three at Mayhem this year, Swordsman, Huntress and Huntsman

Colin

DaveM · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2019, 07:19:11 pm »

They are basically the same hull, although both were built in different sizes (Huntsman 28, 31, Swordsman 33, 42 - and the Super Swordsman)

I'm afraid it's nothing as simple as that, Greg. Huntress was a singe-engined 23' hull and the Huntsman 28 essentially a stretched version with twin engines and a deeper freeboard. Both had moulded Agba hulls. Huntsman 31 shares only its name with the 28, being a completely new 31' design incorporating a deeply-flared bow for improved sea-keeping and the option of a 2 berth aft cabin. Swordsman was 33' and would accommodate 6 people, but its huge beam made it a bit interesting in handling! Owners refer to it as The Floating Country Cottage.

My personal favourite - certainly for its handling - is the Huntress.

There is much more information about the full-size boats here https://faireyownersclub.co.uk/

PM me for any info you need about the kits.

DaveM

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2019, 07:27:06 pm »

Dave to the rescue! Take heed!

Colin

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2019, 07:35:58 pm »

And here is the Fairey Huntress in RN configuration on show ar Portsmouth Dockyard.

Colin

raflaunches · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2019, 08:01:57 pm »

Always had a love for these beautiful boats, I’ve never built one (yet

) but have one by J Class Hulls in storage for future projects. It may have to jump to queue!

Sparrow · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2019, 11:14:21 pm »

Thanks everyone for help with the difference between Huntsman and Swordsman as I will decide which one to build I have seen plans available for the two above but not for the Huntress I assume they can be bought from someone if I decide on one thanks again Peter.

DaveM · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2019, 08:39:41 am »

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/fairey-huntress-23-2/
There will also be a 1/8 scale kit out early next year.
DaveM

canabus · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2019, 10:27:33 am »

Hi Guys

What about the Spearfish ?????
Canabus

SailorGreg · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2019, 10:49:49 am »

Thanks to DaveM for the clarification.

The 1/8 Huntress might have to join my list of future projects!

Greg

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2019, 12:53:22 pm »

Just to whet your appetite, here is the Huntress prototype seen at Warwick.

Colin

DaveM · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2019, 05:14:30 pm »

Quote from: canabus on December 20, 2019, 10:27:33 am

Hi Guys
What about the Spearfish ?????
Canabus

All in good time, Harrikin!

DM

Sparrow · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2019, 10:58:58 am »

Thanks Colin may wait till it arrive have birthday early next year wife think I have enough models I love making them but have not taken them to the water but plan to when weather get warmer. Peter.

Sparrow · « **Reply #15 on:** January 01, 2020, 01:12:08 pm »

Thanks Martin. Glad you could sort out my email problems I seam to get would rather phone and talk to people than use computer, Will now get them printed so I can make a start. Thanks again Peter.

DaveM · « **Reply #16 on:** January 01, 2020, 05:21:25 pm »

Quote from: Sparrow on January 01, 2020, 01:12:08 pm

Thanks Martin. Glad you could sort out my email problems I seam to get would rather phone and talk to people than use computer, Will now get them printed so I can make a start. Thanks again Peter.

Can I assume from this that you received the PDF copies of the plans which I sent to you this morning?
DM

Sparrow · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2020, 10:40:03 pm »

Yes Dave had them blown up been to Slec and bought ply last week so all started frames cut and now fitting keel on frames so all going well thanks again, not logged on for a while so missed your last request sorry. Thanks again Peter.

NickelBelter · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2020, 02:03:17 am »

Quote from: Colin Bishop on December 19, 2019, 07:35:58 pm

And here is the Fairey Huntress in RN configuration on show ar Portsmouth Dockyard.

Colin

Interesting... I take it these were used for 'utility' duties and crew transfer in the RN?

canabus · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:03:51 am »

Hi Lads
Pickup this Wooden hull Huntsman/Swordsman ex IC motor.
30 and 3/4 x 9 and 1/2 with good bones.
A repaint on the outside and a brushless 38mm.
I think it maybe Veron kit, but please let me know ???

I have repaired the hull dents and removed the IC holes.
Repainted the bottom of the hull in dark blue.
The sides will be white with a red water line trim.
The deck only require a vanish.
Canabus

DaveM · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2020, 08:00:23 am »

I think it maybe Veron kit, but please let me know ???
The Veron kit was 42" long and of a Huntsman 28, and this clearly is neither. At first I'd have said this was the Precedent 1/11 scale Huntsman 31 model, but the internal construction isn't the same as that kit. I'd guess that someome has borrowed a kit plan and made his own version, using thicker ply for the frames and omitting the long internal "sides". The line of the windscreen on the cabin top is horribly wrong - the proper screen is curved.

DaveM

canabus · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:45:14 am »

Hi Dave
The omitted internal sides is maybe so they could get the exhaust pipe in.
Totally agree about the windscreen.
If it was a copy off a kit plan they had done a dam good job of it.
Bit of a mystery one!!!
Looks like a roof removal to add some combings , as salt water and electrics do not mix.

Canabus

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #22 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:02:01 am »

Re the windscreen, I would guess that a V shaped one was a lot easier than trying to make a template for the curved one.

Colin

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:04:50 am »

Quote

Interesting... I take it these were used for 'utility' duties and crew transfer in the RN?

No. they were used as Captain's transport on larger warships:

https://www.pnbpropertytrust.org/historic-boats/boatdetails/sultan-fairey-huntress/72/

Colin

canabus · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:12:40 am »

Hi Colin
The windscreen will be a challenge and also cutting it to sit on !!!!!

I found once to tape the sandpaper upside down on the roof and sand the screen to fit.

Canabus

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