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[Jonty]

  Can anyone point me to a drawing or photo of the above? I have the Underhill drawing of (supposedly) an R class; this seems to indicate a wheel on the bridge. This strikes me as odd, and there is little other detail.

[John R Haynes]

My 1917 S class HMS Scorpion is in my Portfolio section on my site.

[John R Haynes]

You may also like to obtain Ian Johnston's book "A shipyard at war  " ISBN 978 1 84832 216 5. Lots of close-ups in this period

[Jonty]

Thank you, John. I ended up looking at everything - what craftsmanship! In fact I found Vampire more use as my model appears to be 'as built'.

[Steve40]

As Fitted Drawing of HMS Trojan in Edgar March’s British Destroyers shows wheel and binnacle on the upper bridge as fitted. Trojan was an S class built by J S White, launched in July 1918.

[Jonty]

Aha! Any chance of scanning and sending it to me as a PM? On second thoughts, just post it on here. I'm sure others will find it useful.

[Steve40]

I’ll do my poor best. The plan is a fold out in a very heavy and fragile volume, and will need some careful wrestling onto the scanner without damaging it. I am, eventually, building an Australian ‘S’ class in 1/96 using John Hayne’s hull as purchased from Fleetscale, but that is a few projects away.


If I can post the detail here I will.


Cheers


Steve

[John R Haynes]

I have a plan of a Thornycroft S that I could scan to you . I also restored HMS Radstock an R destroyer model  for the IWM that I could also scan a few pictures if you contact me off board .

[John R Haynes]

Realised my e-mail on this site is not up-to-date. Should be john@johnrhaynes.com 

[derekwarner]

Welcome Steve........so is the S class intended as HMAS Tasmania [H25] or HMAS Swordsman [F3A] ?


Certainly @ 1:96, she will be a small model


Derek

[Steve40]

Hi Derek


Tasmania is the aim. Yes, it’s a small build in 1/96, but a very attractive class of Destroyer. I think the key will be keeping topweight to a minimum as there isn’t much displacement to play with. I usually build fast planing boats, so hopefully I can keep this one light where it counts.


Cheers


Steve

[Steve40]

Jonty


Hope this works. Note also that the plan for HMS Trojan is that of an Admiralty-design S class, not a Thornycroft 'Special', but the bridge/compass platform arrangements should be pretty similar.

[derekwarner]

   turned to view Steve...saved me standing on my head

[Steve40]

and another one

[Jonty]

Brilliant! Thank you all so much.

[raflaunches]

I must admit- that particular book is worth every pound when I bought my copy several years ago. The closest author in recent years to come close to same quality is Norman Friedman and his series of books on Royal Navy warships.
Would have scanned my copy but obviously stuck at work and my copy is at home.

[ballastanksian]

Is there an actual ships wheel?


The Binnacle, compasses and voice pipe arrays can look like a ships wheel at times if the plans are small.
Usually, unless the vessel is wee like a small gun monitor or similar, the wheel is in the compartment below (Wheel house!) The open bridge would have the aforementioned equipment plus chart house/slope and compartments for stuff the officers use.


Having almost completed an M class, it will be interesting to see your build. You are right about minimal weight allowances.

[Steve40]

Yes there is. The S class, like the preceding R’s and M’s had the wheel on the bridge as built. The compartment below is not a ‘wheelhouse’, but the charthouse. It is only with the bigger destroyer  and leader classes, starting with the V leaders, that an open upper platform is fitted, that eventually transforms into a plated in bridge for later classes.  For the S class, if you look at John Hayne’s superb model of HMS Scimitar, an open bridge was built aft and slightly above the original enclosed bridge, but only when the ships were converted for escort duty for the second world war.


Cheers



Steve