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[David gray]

Hello can anybody identify the structure just behind the funnel on the batch 3 type 42 s

[frogman3]

HELLO David well ive built two type 42  stretched in 1/64 scale   HMS   YORK D98 an        HMS EDINBURGH   D97  I think you mean that box affair
just behind the funnel is where all the workin is fitted for the jammers I think but somebody may tell you different as im not an exspert  ive got some info on it but i'll have a look for you in the morn as its bed time now
chris

[David gray]

Hi Chris thanks for that was there some small
Radars on the platforms at either end
Can’t find any photos of them
David

[frogman3]

Hi Chris thanks for that was there some small
Radars on the platforms at either end
Can’t find any photos of them
David

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HI David here is a very poor shot of the units on my Edinburgh sorry but if you need a better shot of them I'll try an hunt a pic up please let me know an sorry but this is a piclink just click on it an the pic will come up in imgbb site
https://ibb.co/s6ZHFPV
but all they are is a  4point cross with small saucer shaped dishes with a wire probe comin out of the centere mounted on each side of the box like S/S hope this helps
you
chris

[David gray]

Thanks Chris I will try to find some pictures of them if you could find anymore
That would be great
David

[Allnightin]

This is about the best shot I have of the Type 675 jammer cabin on HMS Manchester in the mid to late 1990s.  The jammers were removed by about 2000 but the cabin and aerial platforms were left as they were.

[David gray]

Thanks Chris that’s great will be able to work
With that
David

[frogman3]

Thanks Chris that’s great will be able to work
With that
David

HI David  I see that another guy  has posted a very good pic of them jammers mine are nowhere near as good this pic is do you still want me to email my pics  ? 
chris

[Allnightin]

There is a side shot that might help if you are making the aerials but I can't remember which ship

Francis

[frogman3]

There is a side shot that might help if you are making the aerials but I can't remember which ship

Francis

COR these are great pics Francis I really could have done with them when I was building my big type 42 batch 3 Edinburgh an York IN 1/64 SCALE but for me they have come 20 yrs to late but im sure David will find them very usefull 
chris

[David gray]

Yes will be able to make them now


They must have been removable as all the phots I have seen of the type
42s they are missing
Thanks again Chris


Regards David

[frogman3]

HI David it wasn't me who posted pics but a gent named Francis so you should thank him an where is your build david on here ? as I would like to see it
chris

[David gray]

Hi Chris my build is on navy , battleships , R+D
I have built the superstructure first as I was waiting quite a while for the hull so I am going to finish this
Before I start the hull


Thankyou Francis for the photos


Regards David

[David gray]

Forgot to say it’s hms Liverpool I am building

[Allnightin]

I really could have done with them when I was building my big type 42 batch 3 Edinburgh an York IN 1/64 SCALE but for me they have come 20 yrs to late
chris

If I had known you needed them then I would have shared them Chris but then again I wasn't using Mayhem in those days (did it even exist?) ,I do have quite a collection of shots mainly onboard Gloucester when she was in a docking period in 1997 and then again in refit around 2000.  As I was building a 1/32nd scale model I needed more detail info on the upper deck fittings than you might usually look for when working at smaller scales.

If anyone else needs a picture of a B3  T42 fitting from that era just let me know

[frogman3]

THANKS for that Francis an nice to have talked to you 
chris

[frogman3]

AN David im goin to look at your build in r/d
chris

[justboatonic]

Every picture I have of Type 42s, batch 1, 2 and 3 throughout their lives do not have this equipment on the aft cabin wings. I can only presume it's position there was a test and deemed not suitable. Personally, unless you are modelling a ship that was known to have it and based on that particular time, I wouldnt add it.
Just my opinion though.

[littoralcombat]

Gents,
Like many bits of kit whose purpose is Electronic Warfare in nature, the 675 Jammer antenna were rather expensive. Therefore, there would not of been enough units purchased the equip every Fleet Unit (T22, T42 and Invincible Classes) all of the time. Vessels would of only been issued these when deploying to areas deemed to be higher risk than say, the North Sea or English Channel. Deployed Ships in the Gulf would be candidates for certain as an example.
Incidentally, the commercial name for the 675 was Guardian, but the RN, I believe, used the name Millpost.
Nige
   

[Allnightin]

Nige's bit about when Type 675 was actually fitted onboard is all too true and applied to lots of other bits of kit on RN warships - I can still remember how the much less capable Type 670 jammer fitted on Type 21s in the late 1980s to early 1990s was almost  always useless because there were never enough high power amplifier boards available.    I also found this short statement on-line in a Weapon System Tuning Group newsletter regarding  the phasing out of Type 675:

"The Type 675 Jammer was fitted to major RN ships from the late 1980s onwards. By the turn of the century this jammer was, how-ever being removed from RN service with no plans for its replacement. Essentially the nature of Naval operations were changing and greater emphasis was being place on improved hard kill missile systems."

[justboatonic]

This information is interesting to know because anyone building a Type 42 with cabin structure would likely have wondered what the 'wings' were for. I know I wondered why they were there and was pretty sure they werent just for decoration. As mentioned, all the pics I have of these cabins on T42, none of them have anything fitted. The pic in this thread is the first time Ive ever seen anything mounted on the wing.