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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2020, 10:50:42 AM »

So it will be two Sgt's talking to each other... {-)   and when does the flight com into the equation {-)


@Ian..
What I do is hollow the fittings out, then install a micro LED..
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2020, 12:14:03 PM »

So it will be two Sgt's talking to each other... {-)   and when does the flight com into the equation {-)




When he gets told he can! After all, we know the military is run by the NCOs, officers only think they do... ;)
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2020, 10:17:21 PM »

Update


I have fitted the updated running gear, I decided on having exposed prop shafts and used some custom made ones from SHG Models. The new props are lovely cast bronze items from Prop Shop as are the A-frames. Rudder is temporarily sitting in place but the shafts and A-frames are permanently attached using a mix of P38 and P40 car filler. Very pleased with the results.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2020, 03:30:45 PM »

Looks really good!
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2020, 10:23:01 PM »

Thanks Ian :-))


A bit more progress this evening. Iíve started to use the photo-etch parts from the kit, the windscreen which is very sturdy for a piece of PE brass. Iím using some etch brass eyebrows for the portholes which I believe Iíve had for a few years but canít quite remember where they are from! Using photo references Iíve started to add vents to the bridge superstructure using plastic strut.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2020, 06:42:28 AM »

Coming along nicely. . :-))


Those porthole eyebrows might be from the group I bring over to the deansmarine open days..


I like the way of trying to hide the tin of paint...  {-) %% :D :embarrassed:
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2020, 08:53:11 AM »

Nice detail to add with the port holes! And the vents.. I bought a book called "very special ships" to learn about these boats a little more.. have to say though.. there are no pictures of the Manxman with her dazzle effect in play.. buy on the flip side of that I do like the Abdiel dazzle effect.. very similar just sharper angles.. I'm waiting for parts to arrive for mine as I have ordered bits from micromaster.. hopping they will arrive soon.


Keep up the good work it's looking really good.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2020, 12:51:14 PM »

Many years ago I was considering this build so I collected a good few photos of the class and all but Manxman showed some dazzle pattern or other. All the photos of Manx showed her either with nothing or wearing the dummy hull shape on her side.

By the way instead of Manxman I built a 1/24 S100 S boat instead.
Keep up with the log, as I'm enjoying your build. I saw Manxman in Portsmouth just prior to scrapping and one of my bosses was Navigator on Manxman when she took part in a movie. I can't remember the name of it unfortunately.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2020, 01:50:24 PM »

I think the film was " the king's sailer " or something like that.. I watched a clip of it a while a go. They had triple turrets on the front though 🤔🤔 so I think it was a mix of ships used possibly?
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2020, 11:16:40 PM »

Very nice! I have always appreciated her look, and her history.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2020, 09:44:02 PM »

Glad everyone is liking the build so far. :-))
The bridge superstructure is being detailed with plastic strip around the conning position and the crew shelter for the forward upper twin 4 inch gun. The kit watertight doors are very nice and add a nice level of detail. Iíve loosely assembled the two forward twin 4-inch guns minus shields just to see how it all looks.

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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2020, 10:08:23 PM »

Looking great Nick!


Is the brass etch .5mm? I use it in one of the its I sell for rails on a Bedford Portee, and it is very rugged for it's thickness as you say. I was impressed when I first test fitted some.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2020, 10:32:45 PM »

Thanks Ian :-))


Just measured the brass and I think itís thinner than that possibly closer to 0.25mm. Itís amazingly tough though!
Iíll speak to Ron this weekend to find out about the actual brass and thickness as itís very impressive/ usually I struggle with PE!

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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2020, 10:14:18 PM »

.3mm rings a bell as a standard thickness available along with .5 and .75/.8mm. I assume there are thicker etch is available, but I expect t would cost a lot more as the etching is where the cost comes in. The more holes you want, the more it costs.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2020, 03:58:45 AM »

I'd agree with that the etching is expensive.. I found that there was not enough Ladders in my sheet I had in my kit.. I was short by about 10 inches of it.. I couldn't believe that there was Ladders only one side of the boat, ie like the plans show. But I took a load of pictures of deans ship they have on the shelf. And yes to my belief there are indeed Ladders both sides of the boat in relevant places, another item on the etch sheet that there is a low number of is the support stanchions. I believe that they are probably a good 10 to 16 short as well.. if you are to go by scale. Then these are supposed to be in every 5th or 6th post. Again I can't do this so I'm having to make alternative decisions.. I'm hoping it is just my kit. Same as the brass wire for the railings and also the masks..
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2020, 09:52:23 AM »

I'd agree with that the etching is expensive.. I found that there was not enough Ladders in my sheet I had in my kit.. I was short by about 10 inches of it.. I couldn't believe that there was Ladders only one side of the boat, ie like the plans show.


It might have been worth looking around for a generic set of ladders at a more reasonable price - these at Scalewarship perhaps:


https://www.scalewarship.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=82_74&product_id=108


On the subject of brass thickness for PE,  I used PPD Photoetch earlier this year to do the etching for me of a self drawn sheet of various items I needed for a WW2 destroyer in 1/200th.  They offer a wide range of thicknesses from 0.1mm up to 4mm typically increasing in 0.05 mm steps up to about 0.7mm.  As my model is a working one I went for 0.3mm in the end for robustness when handling it but this meant the minimum width of an etched item would have to be 0.4mm which was acceptable.


On costs, the total charge for a useable etched area of 27cm by 40cm was around £90 for a single sheet but each additional copy of that sheet would have only cost another £24 - over half the costs were the one-off costs for the set-up of the Photoetch mask.  It did take a while to master a suitable drawing software programme - Inkscape in my case - but it has opened a whole new field of possibilities for me in the future to produce what I need for a particular model.
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Re: Dean's Marine HMS Manxman upgrade lasercut plastic
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2020, 04:09:12 PM »

thanks for the ladders link - been keeping an eye out for similar... 


lovely to see the detail nick - inspiring...
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