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steam pinnace.
« on: May 21, 2020, 08:01:52 PM »

Just bought a book on Phillip & sons, Shipbuilders. On the fly sheet found this outline drawing of a 50ft steam pinnace, with all you chaps building WW1 warships, I thought this may be of interest. Also they seemed to have built quite a number for the Admiralty.
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Re: steam pinnace.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 08:05:12 PM »

Hope it works this time
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 08:25:01 PM »

Is that the same as the one in Portsmouth Dockyard?

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 04:21:14 PM »

Hi Colin, could not say, but I expect so, I would surmise the Admiralty used a standard generic plan for all their contractors. With some variations by different contractors, much like warship classes put out to different yards with the contractors adding their own touch here and there. There is a interesting hull for you to look into, the "Research" a non-magnetic hull, a twin mast aux sailing vessel  of 770tons displacement, launched Oct 1937, work suspended, then towed by the P.A.S. tug Atlas to Devonport to be scrapped locally. Beautiful hull lines, make an interesting model for some one. It was built by Philips and son.
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Re: steam pinnace.
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2020, 06:13:13 PM »

There's an excellent book by N.B.J. Stapleton,  Steam Picket Boats and other Small Steam Craft of the Royal Navy.  You can get it on Amazon at the moment for around 8 quid..  It has some great illustrations.  Steam Pinnacles or Picket boats came in several sizes 47 ft,  50 and 53 feet.  They changed ever so slightly depending, presumably, on where they were built.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 09:05:33 AM »

What is interesting is that not all 50 foot pinnaces were the same beam. Some were about 9 feet and others were about 11 feet. The portsmouth one is the narrower version. I found this out when building Invincible. I used the plans from the anatomy of the ship Dreadnought and they are the wide ones so when built they would not fit on the flying deck.


On checking the Sambrook plans and the original plans in Battlecrusiers they both showed the narrower version. It might not sound much but with 3 abreast at 1/96 scale it makes a difference of 1/4" gap (between the boats) and this made all the difference.

There were also earlier versions with twin side by side funnels. In general they remained unchsnged from about 1880 through to the end of WW2


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Re: steam pinnace.
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 09:24:26 AM »


Always liked the look of these,
Surprised that there are not more models about
Does anyone know if there is a real life survivor in running condition?
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 11:31:15 AM »

Yes, there is one at Portsmouth and very nice it is too.

https://www.nmrn-portsmouth.org.uk/exhibits-and-collections/steam-pinnace

Deans Marine do two versions as kits.

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 03:41:33 PM »

Always liked the look of these,
Surprised that there are not more models about
Does anyone know if there is a real life survivor in running condition?


Chylds Hall models do a really nice 1/48th scale early type Picket boat. (Twin funnel).
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 09:42:32 PM »


Hello,
Great response - thanks very much
I would like to try and blag a trip on that...
Thanks again
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2020, 10:07:41 AM »

Although I have stopped selling fittings on my site I still have in stock some of these pinnaces at 1/96 in resin and w/m for sale .
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 09:55:17 AM »

Hi John,
 Do you have the Hotchkiss gun at 1/96th for the pinnace?
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 01:18:31 PM »

The 3pdr Hotchkiss gun is available from 3D Boats on Shapeways.  It comes as a set of 4 guns for less than 10 pounds.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/EQAS9RXAW/3-pounder-x-4-1-96?optionId=42230694&li=shops
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