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Steve Mahoney

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Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:40:49 am »

Has anyone out there built a Saint Class Rescue Tug? Or has any drawings, photos or reference of them? Or know of a model of one?


I'm hoping to build a 1/50 version of the St Fergus/Boniface which ended up as the Toia in NZ. I have a basic GA but nothing that shows deck/bridge equipment, vents, lifeboat details, etc.
Anything at all would be appreciated.


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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 04:45:00 am »

Sarik have 1:48 drawings.
Some photos on Google
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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2020, 12:24:24 pm »

I built a Saint Abbs many years ago from the late Dave Sambrook plans and upped it to 1:36 for steam and ease of crew and it really looked the part. The drawings were in 2 sheets and show the plating etc. and I think the Loyalhanna or Sarik ones may be a single sheet from Phil Thomas, who also has a drawing headed Finbarr & Fergus in his book "British Steam Tugs.This Dutch site shows what may be the original Sambrook ones of Saint Abbs https://www.modelbouwtekeningen.nl/nvm-1011090-st-abbs-admiralty-saint-class-rescue-t.html so it may be worth checking.There is, of course, a paper one that you could use as a dummy https://cfp.muerell.de/albums/35 and since they all differed you can't go far wrong.Good Luck and keep us posted :-))
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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2020, 12:12:23 am »

Thanks boys.


I have the Phil Thomas plans and they are fine to build the hull and basic superstructure but quite light on detail. for example: they don't have the 3 portholes on the aft engine room access or show how many windows along the front of the bridge.
The Dutch one Tony mentioned seem to show a bit more detail. The 32 Euro cost plus postage to NZ is a bit of a hurdle.


I've gathered a few photos from the internet but they are mostly boats in profile and don't show any of the deck layout or equipment. The paper model shows a little of what is missing on the plans e.g the salvage pumps.
If anyone out there has a model of one or knows of one, some photos might add a little light to what's not shown in the photos of the real boats.


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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2020, 09:39:48 am »

Hi Steve,
If you really want to delve further, tryhttps://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/data/gb248-ugd207andgb248ugd130/1   this is the Fleming and Ferguson bit of Glasgow University which has builders plans for vessels they built from 1917. If they have the ones for St Boniface then you will know exactly what was intended, but not necessarily what was built!It would seem that the PT plans are a bit limited. The one in the book  has a fair amount of details, including the portholes,but has no lines. If you want me to scan it for you, let me have your e-mail address by personal message. The book also confirms that she was never armed, so guns are out!
No doubt you've got this bit of info ST. BONIFACE (ex-ST. FERGUS), rescue tug, Saint-class, W.20 (11.19). First ships of class ordered 4.18, rest by 8.18. Launched 16. 6.19 Fleming & Ferguson. sold 1955. 800 tons (440grt), 143(oa), 135(pp)x29x12ft. TE 1250ihp, 12.5kts. Armament: 1-12pdr (designed). As rescue tug, was to be equipped with wireless, smoke-generating apparatus and hydrophones, but probably not. Later used as fleet tug and for target-towing. To New Zealand Government 18.3.25, renamed TOIA 4.26
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Tony
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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2020, 09:13:51 pm »

Thanks Tony. PM sent.
Toia was stationed at my hometown for many years before being broken up. Still holds the record for the largest tug in NZ.
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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2021, 05:22:21 am »

Hi Steve.  Got plans of St. Fergus / St. Finbar.  G A including upperworks and deck plan in my copy of  British Steam Tugs by P N Thomas. I think that they are copies of shipyard plans.  I,m in Dunedin.         Cheers,  Keith
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Re: Saint Class Rescue Tugs
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2021, 10:31:04 pm »

Hi Keith.
I have a couple of PN Thomas drawings as well. Are yours the same as these?
Also managed to find a couple of drawings of the actual Toia.
Haven't been able to find many reference photos but that's not an issue at the moment as I won't be able to start on this one for quite a while the 'to do' list is chocker. I've already got the Tui, Maui and Busby under construction, and the Te Matua, Hauroko and Orere researched and drawn up and ready for laser cutting.
Now I just have to organise a new house/workshop and get everything out of storage.
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