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Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« on: October 14, 2020, 04:28:02 pm »

As winter is upon us here in Canada. It is time to start building a new boat.
My "Borkum" has a MSM Clyde Steam Plant. I plan to build a longer launch-style wooden boat and looking for innovative ideas to move the steam engine from boat to boat without too much hassle.

Would love to "sail" the Borkum for a run then put the steam plant into the new boat while at the pond. What have others done? Anybody solved my dilemma. Any quick release ideas?

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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 05:47:57 pm »

All my steam plants are complete units on an engine, these makes it easy to remove for cleaning and maintenance, although I don't swap my plants around, this may be an idea you could use
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 06:07:30 pm »

Mine is on a tray/complete unit too. How do you attach to the the boat floor/deck.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2020, 06:11:05 pm »

I have plates fixed to the bulkheads (tapped 2 BA) 2 forward, 2 in the centre and 2 aft. I made long bolts for ease, unbolt then slide the unit forward to clear the coupling (I use a ball and socket joint)
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2020, 07:18:09 pm »

All my steam plants are complete units on an engine, these makes it easy to remove for cleaning and maintenance, although I don't swap my plants around, this may be an idea you could use


Now that's a nice piece of engineering Phil  :-))

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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 07:35:22 pm »

Bonjour Derek,
Please note that the Borkum is a wide boat, stable, perfect for a vertical boiler. Watch how my thinner and longer launch dances :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-xE5ZgT90E

The gravity center is an important thing on our babies, this parameter should be taken in account.


Besides this, Phil's plant is very practice, I very often apply the same process.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 07:38:50 pm »

Many thanks Mark
Here is the latest plant, again on and engine bed, once its lined up in the "Michelle" hull I will do the cut out for the funnel
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 08:04:08 pm »

You know what that engine is very elegant and the build is so clean and simple.  Thats a great standard for others to follow  :-))

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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 09:51:35 pm »

Derek, in a similar way to Phils, this one from my original steam tug sits on a tray so that the whole system is easy to take out for maintenance. The tray rests inside a rectangular frame within the hull and so does not have any fixings, it just lifts out after disconnecting the props. There is space beneath the tray that is used for the ballasting keeping the centre of gravity nice and low.
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 10:04:27 pm »

Dave,
That's what I was thinking. If I make a cradle for it to sit in snuggly so it won't move and attached to the prop shaft correctly. Like a inverted riser. I should be able to pull it out and do maintenance or swap it out to a new boat.


Just want to start the thinking as I prepare to build a new boat. Want to make sure while building I take account of how I will place it in the new boat.


Thanks,
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 10:43:30 pm »

my long suffering plant.... %) ....but one one plate
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2020, 10:53:00 pm »

Gorgeous, — what does it weight?
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2020, 12:31:58 am »





Pull feed pump suction pipe off boat, disconnect servos, pull total unit back 1/8” to clear forward pins, lift out from front. Installing is the reverse. Would fit into another boat if I had one.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2020, 06:37:37 am »

....."what does it weight?" .....~~6277gms [including water+gas] [plate base is aluminium] ......and the hull is a similar weight  ;D  ........... Derek
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Re: Easy design for moving steam plant from boat to boat.
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2020, 06:45:35 pm »

Some very nice steam plants here!
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