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Billing Boats Nr 424 Mercantic cargo vessel.
« on: May 05, 2021, 07:37:20 pm »

A blast from the past a kit from the 1960's
Coming soon.

Having just secured the purchase of an unbuilt kit I will start this post haste before it perishes  %%


Despite all the other part builds I have I just can't resist this one.


There is a lot of history on the web about this ship.

1:50 scale  37.5" long

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 08:12:51 pm »

Yeah you got it, it makes a great model and still one of my favourites.....I am very  jealous. I wish  had never sold my one 
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Re: Billing Boats Nr 424 Mercantic cargo vessel.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2021, 08:28:19 am »

Yup.
I found this ont' web


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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2021, 04:49:16 pm »

Item has been posted into the care of Hermes 🙈


I hope to receive it early in the week. Upon delivery I will check the inventory for anything missing.
I already have Facebook associates who can provide any of the obsolete fittings if I need them.


Like the Midwest lobster boat kit this is obsolete and rare so I am going to template every part as it is trimmed for fitting so that it could be turned into a laser cutting exercise, maybe Billing might want to resurrect it? They no longer have any archival material to do this. AFAIK
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 05:58:36 pm »

Really looking forward to this build, a classic!


Have a nice weekend!
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 06:01:30 pm »

Me too Hama. It appears to be quite a simple build that will be enhanced with modern day materials like a glass & resin overcoat. It will outlast me for sure
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2021, 09:17:34 pm »

Andy lucky sod I had one sold it years ago sailed well had tons of deck cargo detail funny would turn to port better than Starboard for some reason, would be a great kit for modelers to have bit like the Flower class Corvette would be popular  tassie48
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2021, 12:23:50 pm »

This is one beautiful model. Why Billings have not brought it out again beats me. I have recently built two, one has gone to a friend down south and the other is at home. Over the years there has been so many fibreglass hull moulds made for this one.Which is just as  well as they are like hens teeth. They is lots of info on the net, these little boats seem to pop up in all corners of the globe, all with little modifications. "Mercandia" is or was the firms name. nemesis   
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2021, 02:10:53 pm »

Because the new owners of Billing today do not have any information to reproduce it.


What would be a good size of propeller for this?
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2021, 05:26:41 pm »

Even j fancy this ione, even though iam not a lover of billings
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2021, 03:32:12 pm »

      Andy, Ill check up on Tues at the club and let you know. bill
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2021, 02:42:46 pm »

I remember that type of coaster in trade , their death nell was the artic lorry and roll on /off ferries. Shame they kept a lot of heavy traffic of our roads.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2021, 04:32:23 pm »


hi ya there, I know this plan is pretty close to the coaster for anyone who fancies building a similar one.   It is - it is you know.


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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2021, 05:52:47 pm »

That is the beauty of a fibreglass mould, it would not take much alteration to make this one. nemesis
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Re: Billing Boats Nr 424 Mercantic cargo vessel.
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2021, 06:40:09 pm »

As I haven't actually started this yet I am going to try it on another forum were there are no restrictions. I will continue my current blogs here to their conclusion.
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2021, 07:24:10 pm »

Restrictions???

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2021, 07:29:20 pm »

It's a management thing Colin. It's my work and I'm blogging where I can choose to edit my work when I want. Too often I look back at my blogs to find things I could have done better. It's been discussed already and I don't really want to explain any further. This only affects new blogs. The current ones will continue.


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The recent group meeting of moderators concluded that 2 hrs was enough time in their combined opinions.
This is missing the point entirely and with all due respect non of them contribute their work unless I'm missing something.
If anyone is found to abuse an open editing system then simply ban them rather than humming and r'ing about it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2021, 07:59:12 pm »

Ah, I see. The problem in the past on here is that some people were editing their original posts when they saw responses. Granted, the original offenders have moved on, but the temptation remains which may or may not matter.

A blog or build log is a bit different to run of the mill posts but my humble view is that when posting in that mode it is best to compose offline on a wordprocessor and carefully examine it for total perfection before copying and pasting it onto the forum. In fact I always do this with long posts anyway as I have sometimes lost my carefully constructed text due to a glitch of some sort.

Works for me!

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2021, 08:06:33 pm »

I can look at something as long as 4 yrs ago that I shared. I don't get paid for my time sharing my work and I'm not sitting down for hours composing blogs off forum to suite a daft situation. The feeling of paranoia and distrust has become too much for me I'm afraid.
I found a group where editing is encouraged. We all want the best from our sharing and the easiest experience possible.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2021, 08:24:51 pm »

I'm rather more used to writing articles for magazines which means that you need to edit it to your satisfaction and only then fire it off for publication.

I distrust anything published online as it is ephemeral and can disappear forever in the wink of an eye. (and frequently does!) Anything published on forums etc. is acutely vulnerable to this. One reason why I never commit a huge effort to online publication.

If Martin were to fall under a bus (heaven forbid), this forum would soon disappear as there appears to be no disaster recovery plan in place. It is very vulnerable in that respect.

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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2021, 12:06:44 am »

Mercantic gallery update https://techno.smugmug.com/Billing-Boats-Nr-424-Mercantic/ Questions welcome.


My apologies to those interested in this model for the lack of updates but a compromise has been made  O0
All of the parts pictured are brand new modified parts with the aid of the old asymmetrical frames  :((  I used the port side of every bulkhead to reproduce a mirror image of each (butterfly fashion). I've also modified the internal shape of each to better accommodate any internal fixtures later.
The mahogany deck parts were a long way out in terms of shape and fit so pretty much useless and I've remade from scratch in 1.5mm ply. I've templated all my parts along the way.

Starting afresh with the keel blocks sheered off the bench after completing the framework.


As of this morning the skeleton applied with diluted finishing resin before  starting to chamfer the frames









The propulsion and steering. Raboesch waterproof shaft 4mm 211mm long (can be shortened) Raboesch 35mm type A 4 blade prop. Overlander 28/36 motor. I've used this motor in three models now and it delivers perfectly with an RC car ESC . The variables are battery voltage and propeller size but it can do a wide variety of model sizes and types. Hoga tug and Riva Aquarama are using this motor for example which could not be further apart in required performance.




One of a group of photos in the gallery where I showed the frame from different angles with a nice background.

As I was making the aft deck I realised there was no provision on the plan or the instructions for the deck fittings and mast.

Here I fitted two levels of 5mm ply with pre drilled pilot holes at relevant locations that can be utilised later.



For reference below. Also Cornwall Models have been despatching my orders the following day recently and arriving in good time  :-)








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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2021, 12:46:20 pm »

Here I'm fitting the second half of the bottom skin. The ends are not glued yet and will be persuaded into place later when the main body is not able to move. The decks fore and aft are held parallel to the bench to prevent any twist.









Order of Obechi planking in three widths placed on Thursday with CMB and arrived today Saturday  :-))


I've cut the supplied tube down to provide handy workshop dispenser.






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I now have to change tack and use the weather to best advantage. So despite having everything to progress Mercantic I must change to painting other builds.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2021, 10:00:25 pm »

Can't wait to see her on the water Andy
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2021, 10:14:42 pm »

Well thanks to a fellow builder on Billing Boats builders group, fast forwards.

Thank you Soren Kjaer Nielson   :-)













Here we can see he knocked out the bulkhead frames completely and replaced with consistent thickness ribs   :-))  A modellers licence to improve on the kit.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2021, 01:36:53 am »

Andy many thanks for sharing just a beautiful model I first went to sea in 1973 on one very similar hence my interest looks great on the water got me looking around for a kit now  for a coaster boat my old girl had a working Derrick,  anchor and nav lights thanks again buddy .tassie48
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