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Colin Bishop

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Nuclear Subs
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:07:20 pm »

Just been watching 'Submarine - HMS Trenchant'. It blows BBC's Vigil out of the water!

I was given a tour of HMS Trafalgar at Plymouth Naval Days in 2009. Incredibly cramped inside.

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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 10:18:30 pm »

You were lucky, I got a tour of HMS Spartan it was smaller
My head hurt a few times  O0



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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2021, 06:40:07 am »

Hello a few years ago I was in Hamburg where I went round a Russian submarine and I am amazed that you could get just 3 people together at any one time it was so cramped.
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2021, 07:28:26 am »

I have visited H.M.A.S. Ovens in Perth and could not get far enough away from anything to take a photo showing how crowded it was.
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2021, 08:54:06 am »

Hi I have been on HMAS Ovens as well best bit was getting my wife on or do mean in her.  It may be the eternal wind blowing around Perth plus some rain that convinced her but it was a very well conducted tour as well.  I thought the Maritime museum there was as good as anywhere.

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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2021, 09:38:17 am »

Yes, but even the S boats are/were bigger inside than type sevens. Thanks to family connections have been aboard S,T and V boats with a "Round the bay and back in time for tea" on Spartan many years ago. Given that "It turns and banks like an aircraft" (Captains statement), when asked if I wanted to drive it, I declined cos they wouldn't allow me to loop it. Ward room on a "V" is massive.


  Re "Head banging" gingyer, I noticed the bits poking out on first visit on board Swiftsure. In industry, all drawings I produced had "Remove all burrs and sharp edges" printed on them, so quite a surprise when confronted with lumps of metal with corners on them. When questioned about it, eldest remarked "It doesn't take long to know when and where to duck". Now given there was a problem in "Daylight", think of a fire drill with reduced lighting. Given that there was a lot of formica panels making it look like a windowless caravan, at the end of the day, they are warships. Given the windowless state, one of the crews mum asked "How do you see out?" Lad turned round and said "Me Mum thinks it's like the b****y Seaview."


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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2021, 02:43:01 am »

Of course it depends on what submarine one travels in.   Some years ago I went in a tourist sub in Mauritius and have a certificate to prove it!  Lots of fish and corals.
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2021, 08:24:06 pm »

If you think that our boats are cramped you should try a French one; in one of those boats you will find out what it's like to be a tinned sardine!


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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2021, 10:43:12 pm »

Wow............the Australia  PM has this morning announced we will join the nuclear-powered world with steam-powered submarines  :-)) ... Derek


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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2021, 10:44:13 pm »


Looks like we will have to Deport all of the French language translators  O0 .....[& loads of tins of garlic frogs + snails] .....


Lots more comments, but lets keep it non-Political :-X



In the previous round of Expressions of Interest, the offer from the US was to supply 5 new US built n-Submarines on a Lease basis & take each one back to US waters for any major refit/rework


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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2021, 11:31:30 pm »

Quite a surprise but also logical.  Did I hear right that the N-subs were to built in the UK?

 Is that a direct threat to China about invading Taiwan, I wonder.  They have 14 N-subs  UK has either 11 or 12 depends who you read.
US has 72 and although Russia has 45 you may wonder if they are all serviceable.  I suppose all navies have some subs in for servicing all the time.

I do not think it will stop China, the current way is to rescue them from foreign intervention and with the fake news we are bombarded with, the truth will be difficult to work out.
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 12:10:20 am »


Hullo Roy........yes certainly logical...our first step into the real World of power :-X


Our current Collins Class [Kockums from Malmo] submarines were built in Adelaide by the Australian Submarine Co-Operation ......the Class of 6 is about 1/2 way through their life cycle so if the new Class of n- submarines were operational in say 8 years would be a safe bet & from the same build facility


Some 25? years ago, I co-ordinated the NDT [Classified tests] for a Dutch built "Bredel" peristaltic pump as original equipment on the Kockums design & so prior to acceptance documentation by the RAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OXp3jgJLbE

These tests were conducted at the St Marys Department of Defence facility in Sydney ......some 12 months later, I toured the ASC in Adelaide & viewed the installation of the pump


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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 01:38:03 am »

Unlikly to be built in the UK because Vickers at Barrow is fully committed to the Astute and forth coming Dreadnought programme, could be Lairds at a stretch I suppose but that would mean rebuilding and expanding the yard amonst other things.


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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 03:08:01 am »

The idea will be canned by the first Labour government which might be next year. We will then have to pay $billions to the French to resurrect their outdated design.  <:(
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 10:38:03 am »

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  But aren't all nuclear powered subs steam kettles Dereck?


   Regards  Ian.
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Re: Nuclear Subs
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 11:00:45 am »

Is the navy not looking at  propulsion other than Props possibly Flippers
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« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 11:16:06 am »

I think it is just propulsion not nuclear armaments.  But no doubt we shall see.
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« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 11:45:37 am »

wait till they propose the gungan bongo submarine type propulsion propeller
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« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 01:02:11 pm »


Silent nuclear submarines? ..........remember some years back the story of a quiet Australian Oberon Class submarine shooting periscope pictures of the Big E despite the "huge number of defensive Support auxiliaries protecting it".....most embarrassing  :embarrassed:

*The following extract from the WIKI article is incorrect, as it states Australian submarines [Plural] were involved, when it was one only Australian submarine in the action

"The Oberons were arguably the best conventional submarine class of its time, with an astonishing reputation for quietness that allowed it to exist into the 21st century until replaced by newer classes such as the Collins and Victoria classes in Australia and Canada respectively. In fact, the ability of the O-boats to run in total silence enabled Australian *submarines* to successfully attack USS Enterprise, despite a huge number of supporting ships 'protecting' it. This led to the U.S. re-instating diesel boats into their fleet with the Los Angeles class SS"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AOberon_class_submarine


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