Topic: Imperial V Metric (Read 3761 times)

Geoff · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2021, 12:31:04 pm »

Personally whilst brought up on Imperial and I can still visualize a pound (in weight) I still can't visualize 500g. I've never understood the EU law that banned selling things in pounds and ounces. Why not just show both as its costs nothing to print a label.

Those who think in Imperial would be fine as would those who think in metric, (each would ignore the other) and everybody is happy and as us Imperial's die out the issue goes away. It was just this kind of attitude with the EU which put people backs up and there was just no need for it.

My two (old) Penney's worth!

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Tug Fanatic · « **Reply #26 on:** September 20, 2021, 12:36:41 pm »

Quote from: KitS on September 20, 2021, 12:11:56 pm

Surely True Brits measure temperature in Fahrenheit?

We all know that 32 deg is the point at which water freezes.......

Don't we all know that water freezes at 0C & boils at 100C? Not everybody knows at what degrees fahrenheit water boils.

I much prefer metric and measure everything modelling in mm. Trying to scale 6 and 17/32in is beyond me whilst scaling 166mm isn't.

I dislike rulers with both metric and imperial as I often seem to want to use the side that is imperial but want to measure metric.

Around here imperial weight measurements are used by fruit/veg market stalls as a con. The put the price per lb in large numbers and the price per kg in very small numbers to comply with the law. They say they do it to help old people but it just makes their prices not comparable with those elsewhere & they are not cheap.

We have caused a lot of confusion by allowing both. If weather forecast had just stopped giving both everyone would have adapted bery quickly. What we have now is a mess and the proposed changes are just going to make it worse.

KitS · « **Reply #27 on:** September 20, 2021, 12:45:24 pm »

Quote from: Tug Fanatic on September 20, 2021, 12:36:41 pm

Don't we all know that water freezes at 0C & boils at 100C?

No................

jaymac · « **Reply #28 on:** September 20, 2021, 12:50:09 pm »

All nonsense when your Numbers up as long as the undertaker gets it right its Sorted

colin-d · « **Reply #29 on:** September 20, 2021, 12:54:30 pm »

And there was me thinking that temperatures were mesured in Kelvin's...

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #30 on:** September 20, 2021, 01:29:00 pm »

Forget veggies - the Americans lost a Mars spacecraft due to an Imperial/Metric error!

https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/nasa-mars-climate-orbiter-metric/

Colin

dougal99 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 20, 2021, 02:03:14 pm »

Quote from: colin-d on September 20, 2021, 12:54:30 pm

And there was me thinking that temperatures were mesured in Kelvin's...

Kelvin's what?

I think of cold in Centigrade and hot in Fahrenheit. Does that make me ambidextrous, or just confused?

Netleyned · « **Reply #32 on:** September 20, 2021, 03:29:40 pm »

Hospitals weigh newborns in Lbs/Ozs,
but when I'm attending a clinic and the
nurse asks if I know my weight, I reply 11 Stone
and she says ' do you know it in kilos?'
I think they measure the length of a newborn in cm's
Auto engine displacement in UK has been Litres
as long as I can remember, as opposed to the
US who like the Cubic Inches measurement.
When will time go metric?
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colin-d · « **Reply #33 on:** September 20, 2021, 04:02:47 pm »

Quote from: dougal99 on September 20, 2021, 02:03:14 pm

Kelvin's what?

I would have thought at least you would have heard of someone being called ...
zero Kelvin "absolute zero" which is out a matter of interest -273,15 degrees C

Could be classed as "Richard krainium" see if you can translate that..

Netleyned · « **Reply #34 on:** September 20, 2021, 04:05:36 pm »

Knew his Mum Karen😁

dougal99 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 20, 2021, 04:24:27 pm »

Quote from: colin-d on September 20, 2021, 04:02:47 pm

I would have thought at least you would have heard of someone being called ...
zero Kelvin "absolute zero" which is out a matter of interest -273,15 degrees C

Could be classed as "Richard krainium" see if you can translate that..

I know Kelvin, so temperature measured in Kelvins - no apostrophe. Nuff said

malcolmfrary · « **Reply #36 on:** September 20, 2021, 05:53:02 pm »

Shortly after we metricised (?) I needed some 1/8" bits to make holes for pop rivets for a marginal MOT job, and drilling rust was hard on bits. Off to the hardware store.
"Can you do me half a dozen eighth bits?" says I.
"We've gone metric" says himself.
"Half a dozen three point three millimetre bits, then".
He looks back over his shoulder and asks his mate. "FRED. HAVE WE GOT ANY THREE METRE BITS?"
I still ponder the size of the truck I would have needed.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #37 on:** September 20, 2021, 06:21:27 pm »

kinmel · « **Reply #38 on:** September 20, 2021, 07:36:40 pm »

A U.S. self builder with a Youtube channel today is placing rafters for his balcony at 16¹⁷_/32inch centres.
Even the timber's dimensions are not that precise.

JimG · « **Reply #39 on:** September 20, 2021, 07:42:32 pm »

As an aeromodeller I think of engines sizes as either cubic centimetres or cubic inches. I may use a 10cc engine or a 61 (.61 cu in). Smaller glow engines are usually in cu in while larger petrols are in cc.

Jim

Circlip · « **Reply #40 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:05:33 am »

Yes Jim, we could easily(?) decide what size and type of engine to use in our toys BUT now, look at the proliferation of in/outrunners, and will people STOP giving dressmaking sizes, ie cms.

Regards Ian.

derekwarner · « **Reply #41 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:35:11 am »

.............."will people STOP giving dressmaking sizes, ie cms"

Took a pair of new slacks that were a little too long to a local Tailor....provided the written inner leg dimension in mm........Lady Tailor asked what are these?......we work in cm

Derek

warspite · « **Reply #42 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:36:08 am »

I already work an 8 day week

, for the uninitiated thats 5 days in work and 3 days off

Netleyned · « **Reply #43 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:36:42 am »

Look at British Warships Armament.
4.5 inch guns in turrets,40mm Bofors,20mm Oerlikons

Ned

redpmg · « **Reply #44 on:** September 21, 2021, 01:23:59 pm »

I also tend to think sizes in Feet & inches as that is what was taught at school - but use metric or imperial measurements - whichever suits the particular job

Easier to visualise a 2ft or 24in boat instead of a 60cm one......Bit different for continentals I suppose.

And as for temperature 100F in the shade sounds a lot more impressive than 40c - my desktop weather station displays both - Farenheit makes much more sense when you grew up with it - the difference between 60f and 85f is also easier to understand than 15c to 30c

Never used stones until attending college in the UK........... they were always things found in the ground or in river beds - not logical like feet, inches & yards. Cant really understand it now - nor furlongs etc..............

alan cantwell · « **Reply #45 on:** September 21, 2021, 04:12:12 pm »

I’ve had a lifetime in engineering, did first 12 months in the Training school, where everything was Metric, released onto the shop floor, into the Prestigious No1 Turning shop, I was shown to my Lathe, imperial, oh dear, I asked if there was a Metric one, to be greeted by, we don’t use that crap here, so, I had to start learning Metric,
At the place I retired from, after 42 yrs, we used to convert drawings to imperial, until the bosses kids took over, then it was all Metric, guys used to convert with a calculator, until a monumental drop bollock, from then on, imperial was out, But, we often got drawings in imperial, so they got converted in house to some strange metric sizes!

Reminds me of the old timberyard joke, Have you got a piece of 2x2, we don’t stock that, it’s 50mmx50mm, how much is it? £2 a foot.

I use Metric for dimensions, but weights? NOT a clue!

Ralph · « **Reply #46 on:** September 21, 2021, 07:43:14 pm »

Worked all my life in the UK gas industry, started off in the 1970s with cubic feet, therms and BTUs, never really caught up with cubic metres (as opposed to meters which are of course used to measure the cubic metres) and kwh. Pipe diameters are still recorded in inches or millimetres depending on the age and material of the pipe and just to confuse everyone a bit more metal pipes are sized by their internal bore but PE pipes are measured by their OD.

Personally when I'm doing a bit of DIY or modelling I will use whatever dimension is easiest to read on my tape measure or ruler - totally confused the wife when I was cutting some slabs for the garden earlier in the year, coming away with things like "this one needs to be 450mm by 13 1/2 inches", well I knew what I needed!

Ralph

roycv · « **Reply #47 on:** September 21, 2021, 07:51:37 pm »

Hi REdpmg if you reverse 16 deg C it gives the equivalent 61 F also 28C reverses to 82F.

But then you hear a TV announcer refering to minus 40 degs C which is also minus 40 deg F.

At my Grammar school we had a 6 day week 1 -5 Mon - Fri. The following Monday was Day 6 et al.

In those days the metric system was an interesting folly propounded by our traditional enemy.

regards
Roy

redpmg · « **Reply #48 on:** September 21, 2021, 08:10:55 pm »

Ah Yes Roy - but if you reverse 40c you get 04 not 100 - must have taken you a while to work those out.

It seems most of us over 60s - (some of us way over..) are stuck with the use of both imperial & metric - but I think it is a mistake to revert now - youngsters seem to be totally lost without their calculators ! - they wont be able to do pounds , shillings & pence either...........

Went though decimalisation in my sanctioned home country (north of SA) and the UK at different times - the chaos then was bad enough...............

And -273c is classified as absolute Zero - cryogenic freezers used by medics for specimens (and some nut cases......) are set at that temperature.......... Only know that and how expensive the freezers are as I worked with all types of researchers ....

Regards

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #49 on:** September 21, 2021, 09:33:25 pm »

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Went though decimalisation in my sanctioned home country (north of SA) and the UK at different times - the chaos then was bad enough...............

On UK decimalisation day I was a cashier on the counter of a high street bank - it didn't get much more confused than that! I subsequently decided it wasn't the job for me.

Colin

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