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Netleyned

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Speed VS Scale
« on: October 13, 2021, 03:49:52 pm »

At the lake this afternoon😁
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2021, 03:59:42 pm »

They don't mix!! The two meter rule was never more appropriate, but separation is best on different water.  :police: JMO
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2021, 04:47:14 pm »

Not on the same water at the same time, That put me off bring a boat you your lake Ned shame it hadn't been a rag flapper wouldn't have been so bad <:(
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2021, 05:09:17 pm »

There were 5 of us sailing yachts, and just
the one scale boat when Fred put his manic machine
In the water. 10 secs later Bang! and the rigger was into the hull and both sank locked together.
That's Graham, our Chairman doing the rescue.
There was just a couple of marks on the paintwork of the rigger.  %)
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2021, 07:46:23 pm »

It is typically, because the operator of fast boats are watching the boat rather than
where they are going. And  the faster they go, the less time the skipper has to react.
I have had a boat sunk in the same way. The model goes faster, the turns get wider,
and what was safe clearance becomes hard contact. Since then, I always pull my models
out when one of the go fasty boats go into the pond.  {:-{

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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2021, 08:18:48 pm »

A hydroplane will typically have a very poor turning circle- less to grip the water. At one time fast electrics only needed a few minutes and the batteries were flat. High capacity lithium packs mean they can run for half an hour or more. A bit of sensible judgement of sharing the water should suffice. I don't like it when clubs ban certain types of model- it narrows the field.

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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2021, 09:03:44 pm »

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A bit of sensible judgement of sharing the water should suffice.

Absolutely! Fast and scale models on the water at the same time are an accident waiting to happen. Once at Beale Park I saw a fast hovercraft run over a tug and sink it in very deep water.

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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 10:35:53 pm »

Scale doesn't necessarily mean slow. Also slow models can often do a great deal of damage if they have a lot of weight and a Mr Magoo at the tiller.

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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2021, 12:09:05 am »

Absolute drivel. It's not the speed it's the driver.
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2021, 12:31:47 am »

The Rules and Laws of the sea should apply to the pond......who did what?


Motor gives way to sail O0


Ferries have right of way? %)


Fast craft give way to slow craft  >>:-(


Who could have reasonably avoided the collision?  :P


From the visual evidence, clearly it was not an opposing Port to Port convention, nor an overtaking incident


Did either skipper of the vessel admit fault?, or is it the case of one Skipper and one Driver?

Were the Water :police:  called to conduct a Drug or excess of alcohol examination?
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2021, 01:36:36 am »

We have one or two speedsters who generally run well away from the rest of us scaleies but we mingle for a chat. I believe another club specify running times for speed, scale and sailing vessels depending on numbers.
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2021, 09:30:01 am »

It is typically, because the operator of fast boats are watching the boat rather than
where they are going. And  the faster they go, the less time the skipper has to react.
I have had a boat sunk in the same way. The model goes faster, the turns get wider,
and what was safe clearance becomes hard contact. Since then, I always pull my models
out when one of the go fasty boats go into the pond.  {:-{
The problem with fast boat drivers, especially new ones, is that they got the fast boat to see it going fast.  Seeing where it is going is a very secondary consideration. 
Very often they don't have the instinctive reactions to cope with something unexpected even if they do see what is in front of their boat.  Even more if they happen to be coming towards themselves and use the "wrong left".

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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2021, 10:50:48 am »

Malcolm is totally correct, such "accidents" are the fault of the model operators. The reasons may be various but they are responsible.


If I sail and others are also on the water, they are all regarded as potential threats.  The last time it happened to me there were only two models on a very big lake and he couldn't take his eyes of his model....!


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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2021, 01:16:36 pm »

Separation of disciplines required. It's like RC flying, clubs generally dont have helis and planks or planks and gliders or gliders and helis in the same patch of sky at the same time.
Ive no problem with fast racers on the lake. In fact I admire the ability to control them (unless they're controlling the operator!) but, Id keep my model out of the water while they do their thing, thanks.
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Re: Speed VS Scale
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 06:39:03 pm »

I agree that speed and scale boats should not be operating on the same part of a lake at the same time. On the other hand, submarines are tricky to spot at any speed and special care should be taken when they are about.
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