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.... there's boat stuff in here .... somewhere!

[JimG]

By 2006 they had added an MTB to the boat section, unfortunately tending to hide the Lifeboat behind it.
Jim

[JimG]

By 2017 most of the boats had been moved elsewhere, leaving the CMB and adding a German midget submarine.
Jim

[Martin (Admin)]

By 2006 they had added an MTB to the boat section, unfortunately tending to hide the Lifeboat behind it.
Jim

 Excellent! 

 Do you remember what that engine is, behind it?

[JimG]

 Excellent! 

 Do you remember what that engine is, behind it?

I can't remember what it is, I don't even know if they had a display board for it. Going back to the original photo and magnifying it up the lettering on the rocker cover is Isotta Frasekini, so possibly Italian made. If British made I might have said Napier Lion as it was also a 3 row engine.Just googled the maker and they were Italian and made both aircraft and marine engines starting in the 1930s. The relevance of the engine is that their marine engines were used in torpedo boats by Italy, Finlans, Sweden and Britain before and during WW II so the engine may be from the MTB.
Jim

[raflaunches]

It’s an Isotta Fraschini engine which were fitted to the early British MTBs. Scott-Paine spent a lot of time trying to get the British government to get a license to built them in the UK as they were more powerful than the Napier Lions used in other MTB/MGB/ASRL but to no avail.

[Martin (Admin)]

 
https://oldmachinepress.com/2019/04/05/isotta-fraschini-w-18-aircraft-and-marine-engines/

[Howard]

Hello,
 I have always found Duxford an amazing day out even more so if you have young lads well worth going.
           Regards Howard.

[roycv]

Great place Duxford not been there for 5 years or so but a great visit.  If you go to Germany the Deutche museum in Munich has a similar type museum out of town.

 I recall visiting the Munich museum probably 1992 and they had the actual Theodore Heuse on display outside.  This was a very popular model boat kit, and it stank of diesel but it was also surprisingly small.
When I was in the RAF I used to think the B 29 was big as I had crawled around inside one when the RAF had them as 'Washingtons', I was in the CCF then,  But at Duxford the B 52 dwarfs them all.
They were restoring a Chance-Vought Corsair on my last visit, lovely looking aircraft.  US rejected it at first for carrier operation but the UK bought them and showed the Americans how to land them safely on a carrier.  Apparently you come round in a wide sweep, otherwise you can't see where you are going.
regards
Roy

[Akira]

"They were restoring a Chance-Vought Corsair on my last visit, lovely looking aircraft.  US rejected it at first for carrier operation but the UK bought them and showed the Americans how to land them safely on a carrier.  Apparently you come round in a wide sweep, otherwise you can't see where you are going."Interesting Roy. I was not aware of that tidbit of the Corsair's history. I do know, however, that it was the case with the F4U Corsair. the USN ad so much trouble that they passed the aircraft to the US marines and the Fleet Air Arm. most FAA pilots were trained into the F4U's in the States at airfield set up specifically for the FAA. My former residence, Bar Harbor, Maine was a satellite field for Brunswick naval Air Station and, as such, set up training pilots in the landing technique. I have a photo of the runway painted with "arresting wires" somewhere. I'll post it when I find it.

[JimG]

There was also a problem with the landing gear initially. The damping was not right for the controlled crash landing used on carriers so they were initially rejected for carrier use. The US Marines got them as they were intended for use from land runways. They would have been flown off carriers onto captured enemy airfields. It was only after modification of the undercarriage legs that they became suitable for carrier landing allowing the Fleet Air Arm to develop the curved approach (also used by Seafires which also had very poor visibility ahead when landing).
As for Duxford I always regularly visited there but now have little incentive to do so since they have stopped the Flying Legends air show there. Their reason was that it would save the museum money but they have lost one of the biggest draws for customers that they had. Progress in the restoration of both airworthy and embalmed airframes has became very slow or stopped so little difference to see.

Jim

[Akira]

Jim, Right you are. I had forgotten about the landing gear issue. Thanks for renewing my grey cells. They were quite bouncy.

[roycv]

Thanks Jim for the extra info always appreciated.
Roy

[Circlip]

The TSR2 looked rather forlorn displayed outside when I visited Duxford, Was inmpressed with"Green Mace"


    Regards  Ian.

[raflaunches]

When did you last visit Ian? Last time I went TSR2 took pride of place in the British Hangar fully repainted and looking rather splendid.

[Circlip]

When you could only get so much petrol due to rationing, probably forty years ago.   Think they'd just got the Concord(e) test bed aircraft.
 "British hanger" ? ? ? ?


   Regards   Ian.

[raflaunches]

When you could only get so much petrol due to rationing, probably forty years ago.   Think they'd just got the Concord(e) test bed aircraft.
 "British hanger" ? ? ? ?


   Regards   Ian.

A lot has changed in the last few years- the big hangar that can be seen from the M11 is known as the Super Hangar or British Hangar as it’s full of British designed or operated aircraft. Well worth a revisit if you ever get the chance.

[Circlip]

The TSR2 was outside on the grass and being attended by a couple of volunteers marking out and cutting a piece of "Alclad" for a missing fusegulge panel. Aircraft were basically "Hangered", not cosseted.    Good to see that we now treat the exhibits with the respect they deserve.


  Sadly, that one screwed by the "Yankee Dollar"


  The "X1" was rusting outside at the time.


     Regards  Ian.

[Klunk]

Perhaps a Mayhem day out!!!