Topic: Battleship ID help (Read 2181 times)

buckfast · « **on:** March 06, 2022, 10:45:47 pm »

Hello everyone.

It’s been a long time since making a post here, so please forgive me for coming straight in with questions.

I was given this part finished model and I don’t know a thing about it. I was wondering if anyone could help me to identify it please.

buckfast · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2022, 10:58:47 pm »

Image

derekwarner · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2022, 02:44:32 am »

It does appear WW1 vintage, but also very generic [boat with barrels = a Battleship ]

So I searched

Google for battleship with 2 funnels, and triple mounts in a, b, x and y positions

The nomination of a, b, x & y may be from the RN, however the attribute in the question in Google collects all Navies battleships.....

Hellinic HN, Italian Navy MM, Japanese IJN, American USS, Dutch HNLMS, German Navy KM, British RN, New Zealand RNZN and Australian RAN

Didn't see an Canadian finds

A few with the required number & position of Mounts, but none of these with the [edit 2] funnels
Many near close, but none found with the specific criteria as defined

So possibly a design just in the imagination of the Model Manufactures mind?

Any other thoughts?............Derek

Geoff · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:50:26 am »

Pretty sure this comes from a very old plan in the 1950's and was a representative model of a British cruiser. The original was built to show how to build radio control in a model boat which given the size and weight of equipment in those days was a remarkable achievement. The design of the model itself was of secondary consideration.

There were a number of variations on a theme and the cruiser itself did not exist. There were a number of articles in some very old model boat magazines and sometimes they get re-issued in an antiques corner. HMS Wolverton comes to mind as the original name.

As above the intent was to demonstrate radio control and the model itself only bares a superficial resemblance to a real ship.

Nice find though from the days of the real R/C engineers!

Cheers

Geoff

buckfast · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2022, 01:37:48 pm »

Hi Derek/Geoff.

Thank you for your help.

This has never had any radio gear or prop tube or even a rudder fitted. I was hoping to get it up and running as my 5yo son has been asking about it non-stop since I was given it.

Do you think its worth putting a little time and effort in and get it running?

Being a novice, the question is, where to start? I am not afraid to get stuck in, but I don't just want to wade in and make a mess of it not having any plans to work to.

Where would you guys start?

I can get you some more pictures of the inside if that would help?

Best regards,
Geoff

derekwarner · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2022, 03:12:18 pm »

Evening Geoffbuckfast......

Your second question.......'Do you think its worth putting a little time and effort in and get it running? ......is probably more difficult to answer than the first question

...however....

If the vessel was for your 5YO Son, then forget it

....
If you were to investigate internal plans/sizes/motors/batteries/RC control gear etc and accessories for yourself, then you have answered your own question

Good luck to you & the 5YO

Derek

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2022, 05:50:29 pm »

Geoff is almost certainly right, it is the freelance WW2 design cruiser HMS Woolverton. The plan is still on sale:

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/hms-wolverton-mm286/

Colin

buckfast · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:46:57 pm »

Thanks again.

Colin, the link to the plans is very much appreciated.

A couple of pictures

buckfast · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:48:32 pm »

buckfast · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:49:45 pm »

buckfast · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2022, 09:51:43 pm »

Jonty · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2022, 12:51:19 pm »

Looks like a GRP hull, so presumably that much is scale.

Geoff · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2022, 01:44:50 pm »

Interesting that it has a fibreglass hull. I suspect it was made much later then as believe the plan was for bread and butter construction so someone at some point in time has made a copy hence the different superstructure. Its still very much a semi scale model. Yes, do get it going for your son as he would love it to bits! I would suggest a single prop as its easier to do. Once the hole has been drilled insert the prop shaft and roughen up the interior and use some fibre glass Isopon repair goo.

You don't need to overpower this model as its for your five year old so a gently top speed is perfectly fine so use brushed motor and two channel (2.4) so no crystals involved. A modest sized lead acid battery and you should be away!

Have fun

Cheers

Geoff

buckfast · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2022, 08:39:46 pm »

Hi Geoff,

Thank you again for your help. Do you know of any images of a completed model that use as a point of reference?
I’m pleased you suggested single prop, as I was having horrible images in my head of how I’d go about multiple props haha.
I think you’re right, keep it simple and low power and my boy will be over the moon with it.
He’s really into his radio control cement mixer, dump truck and excavators at the minute, but come the nice weather, this radio control ship will be a pleasant change for him.

Cheers
Geoff.

ballastanksian · « **Reply #14 on:** March 08, 2022, 09:23:22 pm »

Definitely restore it for your littl'n Geoff. It's a 'representation' of a cruiser loads of charm and the hull looks amazing. He will be chuffed when he gets on the lake with a ship almost as long as he is tall

sabre · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:27:44 pm »

A quick google found this ancient thing.

https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/ccd1814205ff286975721cbc16a85388/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/2day-collectables-antique-and-fine-furniture-ceramics-pi/

buckfast · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:58:56 pm »

Thanks BT Ian

Great find sabre. I’ve saved the photos

mudway · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2022, 11:35:53 pm »

Isn't this it?

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/hms-wolverton-mm286/

Circlip · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2022, 12:29:42 pm »

Thanks BT Ian [/size]

Can't do owt bart e-mail address Geoff.

Regards Ian.

Mrs Stav · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2022, 02:00:36 pm »

What length and Width is this as Hubby thinks he might have the original Mold for this

Kelly

Geoff · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2022, 04:19:17 pm »

I haven't seen any completed model pictures for decades but what you have does appear to be basically complete. You can add more detail if you want but I think with a 5 year old in attendance what you have will be perfect for him and he will really enjoy sailing it.

Cheers

Geoff

buckfast · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2022, 04:40:56 pm »

Hi Mrs Stav,

I'll measure it for you later.

Does anyone have any idea what type/size of prop I'll need?

Cheers
Geoff.

buckfast · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2022, 07:06:17 pm »

Hi,

It’s 61 inches x 8 inches.

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