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Dean Marine
« on: May 11, 2022, 11:11:52 am »


Please take complaints direct with manufacture First.

Please see: https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2186.msg508217.html#msg508217

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Re: Deanmarine very poor value
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2022, 11:59:31 am »

Hi obviously you have problem with the kit you have purchased. Most model builders over the years will have had problems at some time with kits and yes you have the right to complain about any issues with the kit. I see things this way you have a problem surely you need to contact the manufacture and allow them to correct any issues. The idea of a forum from my point of view is to promote our hobby of model building complaining on this site will not correct any issues you have with a kit supplier. I recently purchased a model costing £500 this had problems but with help of the supplier problems were resolved. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))   
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2022, 12:37:27 pm »

I spoke to them about all issues, they believe their resin fittings are great,… and that they are right about everything
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2022, 04:53:16 pm »

I can say that I have always had the opposite experience with Deans Marine- I’ve found that they will replace any part that is beyond use. I fear that most new-ish model boaters expect a shake and bake kit similar to the aircraft kit manufacturer Tamiya. I have built many Deans Marine kits over the years (in fact my first model boat kit was from Deans Marine) and yes sometimes you have to file some excess resin off or reshape to your own liking but never to the point of complaining that it was completely unusable. Ron is a very approachable person and has in my case always been helpful and a font of knowledge.
The fittings in this picture of HMS Dreadnought are entirely from Deans Marine including the gun turrets:
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2022, 08:05:12 pm »

I can confirm Nick‘s statement. I have built several Deans Marine kits and experienced their excellent customer service when I needed help.
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2022, 11:23:04 pm »

I was about to type much the same as Nick, but he's said it better than I would, I've loved my Dean's models. It's probably worth remembering that we're modelers, we change, adjust, modify and actually work on the kit, not just assemble parts.
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 12:29:52 pm »

Due to way resin castings are made, they can never compete with 3D printing but with a bit of old time model making can be improved.


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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 10:42:11 am »

Im a modelmaker of many years and pretty dam good at it


Cant be bothered wasting time adding images but i have a few youtube videos here


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I cant be bothered wasting time looking at your videos
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So you can see im not a kit assembler but a modelmaker


I challenge Deans or anyone to post images of deans resin castings BEFORE  clean up then maybe on their boat, torpedo launchers, directors, doors, gun mount, paravanes capstans .


Their vacform aircraft, walrus,…. Try that, find one that isn't a Short mould that wasn't rushed, or the vac boat tops that haven't pulled over the mould  properly due to lack of heat or too much speed,


Their quality on plastic and resin is awful, there is no argument, their  white metal fittings are entirely average and useable their hulls are ok, just, but compare them to fleetscale who for the same hull are cheaper…
And why in 30 odd years of business have they not moved from the terrible brittle polyester resin that is the cause of many issues to a good quality 2 part g45 or similar?


The model boat community seems happy to accept substandard quality for some reason,
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 04:11:57 pm »

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im not a kit assembler but a modelmaker


But you bought a kit ??????   {:-{
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 05:18:37 pm »

I didnt know, till i had bought it……
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 05:27:32 pm »

Hi Markjames  please could you tell us which kit did you buy?
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2022, 06:44:36 pm »

I didnt know, till i had bought it……
Humm "Deans Marine Model Kits" not a clue
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2022, 10:09:38 pm »

Well Mr James, you've set out your position, I think it's time to back up your claims. You're braver than me, after only 60 years building models, I certainly am not yet -pretty dam good at it-. I would reserve that title for a select few like the late Brian king. Perhaps you can show us some of your work, I like to learn from a master craftsman.

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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 10:29:51 pm »

I can't speak for the latest kits but I have certainly experienced problems with earlier ones when reviewing them for Model Boats magazine. Some problems with quality control.  Some scratch building skills came in useful too.

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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2022, 11:58:06 pm »

While I heartily detest polyester resin, at least Deans do not cut it with mineral fillers making the castings slightly matt, and even more brittle.


The model boat industry does seem to have evolved much closer to traditional modelling/semi scratch building skills than plastic kits, though many of these are not easy build by any means. Some companies products require much fettling and filling to get a decent finished model, and likewise scratch detailing to get a good looking model, hence the growth of the aftermarket industry.


I do not excuse a kit to make kits that are difficult to complete, but even a simple model boat is a much greater challenge than a plastic  Spitfire or Tiger tank model. With model boat kits you have to go back to basics. Study the model kit, study references of the real thing, check the instructions, ask the manufacturer questions about kit specifics and prepare each process before committing to tools or glue.


They should be much easier to build, but they are not so decide on if your skills are up to a challenging project (no less than scratch building in some ways due to number of parts and size of model) and proceed in a measured manner.
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Re: Dean Marine
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2022, 05:11:45 pm »


I challenge Deans or anyone to post images of deans resin castings BEFORE  clean up then maybe on their boat, torpedo launchers, directors, doors, gun mount, paravanes capstans .


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