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Author Topic: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale  (Read 3996 times)

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And a Dutch "pantserdekschip" for the coastal work! :-))
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We spoke at Mayhem and I mentioned a Warship Profile old magazine that was on a German ww1 destroyer. Some snapshots for you. Pretty sure you can still get a copy but to be fair there arn't many on board detailed shots but its simiklar to what you are building.


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There is a fine flotilla of escort vessels building up at Wicksteed now, what with Tony's German Torpedo boat and British Destroyer, and now your pair!


We just need a battle ship!


definitely a date for next year.... should be a sight to see! 


   
We spoke at Mayhem and I mentioned a Warship Profile old magazine that was on a German ww1 destroyer. Some snapshots for you. Pretty sure you can still get a copy but to be fair there arn't many on board detailed shots but its simiklar to what you are building.


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many thanks geoff - just had a quick look and found/ordered a copy from ebay - even a few pics will be useful..
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My Bad, I should have written 'German' Battleship! %%
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Well I do have drawings of SMS Baden so itís never off the table! ok2
And I have a hull of SMS Scharnhorst that itching to be built!
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If German, still the same answer, I have Invincible and Iron Duke!!  :-) :-)


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Whilst not the same there is a very nice model on display at Chatham Dockyard and you are now allowed to take pictures.


Hope the attached may help


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Thanks Geoff. Also i found some interesting pics in the 'profile warship 27' you suggested. Every little helps (And is appreciated!).


the builders model of sister ship g37 at nmm greenwich (pic below)  remains my best source by far. there's even more detail than i'll be include since i'm modelling in a smaller scale (1:96) .


just need to get back to her after wicksteed/wings n wheels. small atomisers  for the smoke gen have arrived and look promising..


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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2023, 10:38:19 pm »

How goes it John?
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2023, 12:55:40 pm »

They have a nice model in the Maritime Museum, Greenwich. More models have appeared. Hope this works!


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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2023, 10:58:26 pm »

hi geoff,
yes that's the rather fine builders model of sister ship g37. Since it came from the Germaniawerft yard I rather think itís the closest i'm going to get to g42 for details.
I've been to see it and taken a lot of photos which i'm working from...
 
 
i realised i'd not posted anything after mayhem at wicksteed when i put her on the water for the first time - here's a couple of pics
and a video clip of her in some fine (slightly older) company. Apologies for the quality Ė itís definitely multi tasking to drive the model and take video!
 
https://youtu.be/HRwGkuWdLyQ?si=H4ogqlJ4mSkA59WL
 
thereís still a lot of detail to add. including the dreaded stanchions!
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2023, 11:07:09 pm »


How goes it John?


thanks for asking Ian.  not so much progress since wicksteed - life got in the way..  . i have added various details to the blender/cad file with ladders and railings - can be seen here, though not printed them yet.
i'm wondering whether to use the resin printer to make the railings, but think i'll go with brass etch to match the stanchions.. that will also be stronger. i  may print a resin version to see how it looks..
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2023, 03:41:35 pm »

At 1/96 I would use photo-etch brass (you can get individual stanchions from Deans Marine) and then use Beadalong which is a jewellery thread. Its 7 strand and .28mm in diameter so perfect for our models as typically railings (other than bridge works) would be wire.


Its not expensive but make sure you get the thread and not the wire as the wire is single strand.


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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2023, 03:59:42 pm »

thanks geoff - i remembered our discussion at wicksteed, and have just had a reel of beadalong delivered last week! thanks for the advice.  i bought the 0.38mm as that fits the  2 hole stanchions (quaycraft iirc) ordered a while ago. To my eye it looks ok for scale.
Out of curiosity, do you put laqueur or similar on the stanchions? Ė iirc you leave the brass colour visible..
Anyway,  no real excuse to avoid installing them now.. Ö
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2023, 11:30:54 pm »

If you have a friend or family member who rides horses, clipped/combed horse tail hairs make good cables for your stanchions. I found my bag the other day so might get on soon and finish the Destroyer. Stopping the stanchions from bending inwards with any pressure from the cables is a challenge.
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2023, 05:35:26 pm »

If you have a friend or family member who rides horses, clipped/combed horse tail hairs make good cables for your stanchions. I found my bag the other day so might get on soon and finish the Destroyer. Stopping the stanchions from bending inwards with any pressure from the cables is a challenge.

not heard that one before. i think i'll try the beadalong and see how it goes.  (but do post some pics when you install the horse hair- curious to see it).
i'd previously used the split pin type stanchions from James Lane, with copper wire  - as helpfully posted by shipmate60 here: 
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4898.msg49695.html#msg49695
but i think i saw somewhere that James Lane sadly passed away.
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2023, 09:30:40 pm »

I tried to get some of his but he had retired some time before I was on the lookout for more substantial stanchions. Great idea though.


Does anyone know what equipment Mr. Lane[size=78%] used to make them (jigs/dies etc) and whether they are still around? [/size]
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2023, 09:21:56 am »

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I tried to get some of his but he had retired some time before I was on the lookout for more substantial stanchions. Great idea though.


Does anyone know what equipment Mr. Lane[size=78%] used to make them (jigs/dies etc) and whether they are still around? [/size]


This is what I found from searching mayhemÖ  equipment gone and a potential technique mr lane must have done something similar i'd guess Ė both helpful posts by John W E.   Personally Iíll try the etch route for now.
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,68764.msg745251.html#msg745251
 
https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,26301.msg258096.html#msg258096
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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2023, 09:52:07 am »

If you want more substantial ones at a price then I'd suggest the RB ones from Deans or others https://deansmarine.co.uk/shop/index.php/cPath/1_93

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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2023, 10:20:19 am »

Typically I would paint the stanchions in grey or in your case black and just use the beadalon wire as it is as real stanchions wouldn't be in brass. As regards the RB stanchions (11mm high) these are the best you can get and are CNC machined but the supply is limited due to issues with getting goods out of the EU. Be aware there are also two types for our 1/96 scale RB 074113 (equal spaced which are as rare as hens teeth) and RB 074113B which are unequal spaced which are the ones Deans Marine has. There are also other sources on e-bay which you may want to investigate.


Unequal spaced means there is a bigger gap between the top rail and the lower two. It depends on the ship and when it was built and photo's will guide you.


I tend to "bling" my models a little to add interest by having searchlight rims in brass and a few smaller fittings and perhaps leaving grab rails in brass, binnacles and similar bridge instruments. I tend to paint them in satin varnish to protect them and also so they are not too bright, just catches the eye.


For the wire I use fly fishing swivels as turnbuckles (they are very small, and fly fishing crimps to join the wire. They are black very thin copper tube. Cut it into lengths of about 4mm thread the wire through, round the fitting and back through the crimp. Adjust and then put a spot of superglue on the joint and slid it up tight then cut the tail off. It works well and is quite neat.


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Re: SMS G42 (1915) V25 class torpedo boat. 3d print/scratch build. 1:96 scale
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2023, 08:59:14 am »

v helpful geoff - thanks!
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