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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2007, 04:51:50 PM »

Yes mate i need your email  O0 pm me if you wish,I'm glad you decided to go with the veebox you wont be disappointed these kits are supposed to be really nice.If you need any more advice don't hessitate to ask  ;).
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2007, 02:19:07 AM »

Yes mate i need your email  O0 pm me if you wish,I'm glad you decided to go with the veebox you wont be disappointed these kits are supposed to be really nice.If you need any more advice don't hessitate to ask  ;).
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Hope he is not disappointed anyway!! Flat bottomed might have just been the thing needed!!

As to having boats upside down, I find that a vee is more than able to be inverted with just that slightest of touches of "just a bit more throttle through here".....

Just me being ham fisted though - again.


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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2007, 09:01:37 AM »

Hi Guys

Bad news.  :'( Zippkits say they no longer do the V Box. They say they still do the Easy Vee which they recommend.

Got your email Mart, thanks a lot , plans look good.  I will print them off and have a look, pics look excellent.  i think i will have a go at making this boat whilst looking around for a second boat. Just out of curiosity do you or any of the guys know where you can get plans for the V Box or does any other company sell it.

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2007, 09:41:04 AM »

buy the easy vee i know lots of guys on that other site who have built them and they run fantastic   O0.you can also make a hatch for it too if you wish and i can show you a few pics of one with a hatch if you want?.glad you like the plans mate,once again buy the easy vee shes very fast and stable when set up right.by the way the easy vee was partly inspired by these plans Joe told me so himself.looks very similar dont you think.
heres a pic of the easy vee with hatch the other is the one from those plans.
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2007, 09:44:05 AM »

Hi Mart

Sorry to be a pest.  I have downloaded the plans. Just out of curiosity I printed of the inner transom, just want to make sure the printer has gave me the right size. I measured it at 13" accross 3/4" side and 3 1/2" from top to bottom, centre line. Is this right cos it looks small to me  :-\

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2007, 09:56:56 AM »

your not annoying me lol im not sure on the exact height of the transome mate as i enlarged mine,mine measures 5 3/4" as i raised the sides from the highest part of them and ran it that height right to the transom.it gave me more freeboard .the orriginal is low at the transom and sits low in the water however she runs great.to be honest id buy that easy vee as by the time you buy your wood etc it will cost more than the easy vee.you can allways build this one later if you like and raise the sides and transom like i did.by the way sounds right width wise so must be right  also the hull gets higher near the engine bay area and wider too so dont worry it is big enough  O0.
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2007, 05:53:57 PM »

Hi Mart

Thanks for your time once again.  I probably will order the V Boat and like you said see about building one later.

thanks once again for your time and effort
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2007, 09:35:12 PM »

Hi Mrt

forgot to say i did go into RC Universe, you are right there is loads of stuff to look at.  The one I looked at was Modelpowerboat.com.  There are loads of free plans etc.

here's the link  http://www.modelpowerboat.com/RC_Boat_Plans/p13_sectionid/7

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2007, 11:39:52 AM »

Hi Guys

like I said Mart, sent for the Easy Vee. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Easy-Vee-Gas-Boat-Kit_W0QQitemZ220156899369QQcategoryZ19166QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ2

This costs 60.  Boat and delivery from America. Excellent value, just waiting on it arriving now.  Put a link above in case other guys looking for boats, recommended.

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2007, 04:31:15 PM »

good choice mate gladd i could help,have you decided on setup yet? id advise surface drive!!.Use a simple strut setup with an offset rudder with 2 water piccups if you can ,if it comes with one then buy a piccup that you can bolt on the back of the transom that way you have water running from one to your water jacket then out of the boat.the second one cools the manifold and pipe in that order then over the side.you will need a flex hex coupler for your motor to join to the flex,a brass stuffing tube,1/4", drive dog and a prop and prop nut.email dave marles at prestwich and he will give you a quote for all the above hes a very helpfull guy.or try the links i gave you for some things if you think they are cheaper but i advise def getting the ready welded flex shafts that he has as you dont need to solder a ferrule on  ;).you will also need a tuned pipe for your motor.
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2007, 05:05:01 PM »

Hi Guys

I think I have made a mistake regarding the Zenoah 260 pum. Does it need a clutch and a water pump ?  The engine came on it's own.  I dont know if it needs a clutch and water pump.  hope you guys can put me on the right track

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2007, 05:21:33 PM »

Hi Guys

I also found this combi set for the mono hull, is this good value for money and is this what I should buy for the Easy Vee

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160056444912&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2007, 05:29:48 PM »

you dont need a clutch unless you want one? i got mine from prestwich off dave for 54 quid i think it was.im not running a water pump,unless you idle for more than a min or two you dont need one.as for that hardware set id forget it that company sells cheap rubbish.you can get some good stuff cheap from here.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Head-of-the-River-RC-specialist
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2007, 09:28:37 PM »

Thanks for the site and info Mart.  lots to choose from, will try and stay with your choice but will have to hide it from the wife (too many shiny things)

Can i ask you one more question ? Which quiet exhaust pipe will I go for, wet or dry ? whats the difference

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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2007, 11:26:32 PM »

Hi there Snoopy,

there are other options on hardware available, Prestwich among others do quality components and you can call for advice and speak to person if help in set up is needed.

Again, when it comes to pipes the Prestwich range take some beating, there are lots of American ones around, some are very noisy, and need additional stinger silencers not to be too anti social.

Wet pipe apparently do not give the same performance as dry ones. If you are hell bent on a wet pipe pm me as I might just have one for sale. Not sure I like the idea of water being in close proximity to the internals of an engine. That said, my motor has been full of water many times and so far survived well. (It is a Zenoah PUM260)

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2007, 12:05:43 AM »

cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine  O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2007, 10:09:20 AM »

Thanks again guys for the help and info.  much appreciated  O0
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2007, 10:51:13 AM »

cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine  O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.

Totally agree with finding bargins from Hong Kong via Ebay.  O0
Please be warned that buying from our friends  state side U.S.A. you do have to accept that you could have extra costs on postage/shipping via our not so friends at CUSTOMS.  :police: :police: :police:
At the moment they seem to pick on items comming from the states and slap on IMPORT DUTY.  :'(  >>:-(
I have not had this problem with items via Hong Kong etc and the prices are in U.S. Dollars.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2007, 04:17:14 PM »

cant disagree with glen dave is a great guy to deal with as i said before,that hong kong place is also good for cheap bargains and it is decent gear most of it is octura or similar quality.the ali props are great too,very lite sharp and polished and pretty well balanced too and hold up just fine  O0.at 6 quid they are less than 1/3 the price of a ss one so well worth it.id go for a water cooled pipe with water cooled manifold rather than a wet pipe.mines a hanson pipe and as glen says they can be noisy but mine has a silencer in fact i got it off glen.

Totally agree with finding bargins from Hong Kong via Ebay.  O0
Please be warned that buying from our friends  state side U.S.A. you do have to accept that you could have extra costs on postage/shipping via our not so friends at CUSTOMS.  :police: :police: :police:
At the moment they seem to pick on items comming from the states and slap on IMPORT DUTY.  :'(  >>:-(
I have not had this problem with items via Hong Kong etc and the prices are in U.S. Dollars.

But of course, the ones from Hong Kong were probably gifts. I know mine were. If it's declared as a gift (on the Customs Declaration form), it should be non-taxable - even from the U.S.
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2007, 08:07:23 PM »

Hi Guys

sorry for any confusion, i meant a water cooled pipe not a wet pipe.  thnaks for pointing that out.  think I will go shoot myself.
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2007, 10:27:11 PM »

Hi Guys

sorry for any confusion, i meant a water cooled pipe not a wet pipe.  thnaks for pointing that out.  think I will go shoot myself.
No need to do that mate  {-),there are wet pipes too ;D.by the way make sure you use silicon tubing for the water cooling noy tygon and make sure you use tygon for fuel and not silicon  {-).i can help with the silicon tubing  ;).
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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2007, 04:25:00 PM »

Hi Mart,

that would be fine. PM me with the length of tubing I need and price

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Re: help on choosing petrol engine
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2007, 08:50:31 PM »

Hi Guys

Can anyone recommend a magazine or books that I can buy with the boat setup, engines etc ?
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« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2007, 11:21:01 PM »

best magazine i know of is radio controll boat modeler,has great stuff in it but they only print 4 a year.books best ones that i know of are
ADVANCED R/C BOAT MODELING by John Finch
BASICS OF RC BOAT MODELLING by John Finch
 i have a word document on mono setup out of the first book ill email if you like.not sure where you can get those books,maybe do a search and see what comes up?.
here you go found one  O0 might order myself one.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Advanced-R-C-Boat-Modeling/dp/0911295216/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195083302974&sr=1-1
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