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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2023, 05:17:08 pm »
What glue did you use when you built your last Club 500 - 16 years ago? 


If it is still in one lump and has not had the plastic embrittled maybe the "same again" is worth a try  %)

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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2023, 05:53:58 pm »
Quote from: Martin [Admin] on May 15, 2023, 01:11:53 pm

I had high hopes for the Soudal Fix All, but under test, it easily pulled apart and could easily be peeled of the plastic.

See video: https://youtu.be/VfRNuWb2qQc?t=288b

Yeah, watched the video before I posted, with the large surface area it doesn't have to grip that well. Maybe bathroom sealant would do in that case.


Have a read up on 3M adhesives, they are stating good peel resistance and shear strength. They do an epoxy as well as the acrylic I mentioned.


It's only the motor and servo mounts that need to be securely fixed though Ive even got my servo/ESC mount secured with Velcro, though it is plywood, and has survived a few battles! Oh, and the rudder mounting, which is the important one!


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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2023, 08:18:59 pm »
Quote from: Bunkerbarge on May 10, 2023, 11:13:20 am

No, that will only hold as a result of excluding air between the adhesive and the plastic but the adhesive will peel away from the plastic.  The clue is in the "Solvent free" bit.  You need to dissolve the surface of the plastic to create a proper plastic to plastic welded bond.


Hi Bunkerbarge,

Re: EVO-STIK: Gripfill Laybond Solvent Free Gap Filling Adhesive

I was just cleaning up after another day of failed glue tests, this stuff didn't seem to set after 12-18 hours cure time, when peeled apart
( it didn't put up much of a fight ) and still seemed quite viscous but after 48 hours, it's now set ( open jointed ) and bonded to the plastic
very well, .... did I just not give it long enough?
 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2023, 09:18:55 pm »
 
It  smells like a glue factory in here this evening!    %%



     
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2023, 08:45:11 am »
I have used UHU (and the clear Bostick equivalents) to bond a Plastic Card deck onto a glass fibre TID tug hull and it worked very well.


Several years of active service and the bond remains strong and water-tight  :-))
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2023, 08:29:17 pm »
 
Now uploading Round 6 –  Obsessed by Glue!

https://youtu.be/MOVwx0q41lU
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #106 on: May 17, 2023, 08:02:09 am »
Martin

What can we learn from this?

1. I should have purchased shares of glue making companies.

2. The surface of styrene is too slippy for anything to stick to it well unless it also "dissolves" the surface into the adhesive.
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #107 on: May 17, 2023, 09:49:45 am »
He hasn't tried 3M yet!

As regards 1. you would have thought he would have given us some insider knowledge!
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #108 on: May 17, 2023, 10:12:13 am »
Quote from: ChrisF on May 17, 2023, 09:49:45 am
He hasn't tried 3M yet!

As regards 1. you would have thought he would have given us some insider knowledge!

Having considered the success rate I am not really sure that I want the shares!   %)
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #109 on: May 17, 2023, 03:55:43 pm »
Quote from: ChrisF on May 17, 2023, 09:49:45 am
He hasn't tried 3M yet!

Several good reasons .....

3M Scotch-Weld Low Odour Acylic Adhesive DP810

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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #110 on: May 17, 2023, 03:58:51 pm »

Part 8 tonight....
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #111 on: May 17, 2023, 06:34:21 pm »
You must have spent more on the Glues than the Boat !!  Just build it !!!! %% %% %%
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #112 on: May 17, 2023, 09:31:24 pm »
Quote from: Martin [Admin] on May 17, 2023, 03:58:51 pm

Part 8 tonight....




................DRUMROLL..................... %%
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #113 on: May 18, 2023, 04:12:42 am »
Obviously the best stuff to glue this would be proper MEK. as that's not allowed.....try lawyer thinners!
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #114 on: May 18, 2023, 04:01:10 pm »
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2023, 01:08:40 am »
 
Club500  build - Round  7 - Glue, Good money after Bad!

https://youtu.be/teuLhTrDWGA
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2023, 05:57:41 am »
Martin


As previously mentioned you can make the non gap filling adhesives become gap filling by dissolving bits of the plastic in it overnight in a sealed jar to make a paste. Ideally I paint the edges with neat adhesive then immediately apply the paste. If necessary repeat.


The Revell Contacts at 99p is much cheaper than I have been aware of it.
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #117 on: May 21, 2023, 07:21:09 pm »
Quote from: Tug Fanatic on May 21, 2023, 05:57:41 am

The Revell Contacts at 99p is much cheaper than I have been aware of it.

... I think it's about 20 years old! It's about £7.00 GBP now! ( 2023 )

Additional:
Tried E7000 glue ( aka: Shoe Goo?! )  but it doesn't work
 ..... but strangely enough, 2nd try of Plumbers Pipe Solvent, Has Worked ?!?!?
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2023, 10:15:03 pm »
Of course the big glaring question looming over us is will the glue be set by next Saturday? ;)
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2023, 10:26:23 pm »

It's gonna be close!    O0

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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #120 on: May 22, 2023, 07:56:29 pm »

Partial screwup this evening.... I've glued down the engine mount ( after a LOT of alignment juggling! )....

 .... but in my hast, I forgot to the install the motor (wire) fixings!     >>:-(

                   This going to take a bit of lateral thinking....!




 
 

 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #121 on: May 22, 2023, 10:37:59 pm »
 
I ONLY ever clean up my working area when I drop, loose, put something away for safe keeping.....

 Two hours of searching, hoovering, lifting everything up 3 or 4 times, I found the ....  prop nut .... >>:-(

 
I am still videoing the build but as I need to get this boat ready for Wicksteed this weekend,
  I'll edit it all together after the fact.  :-)

 
 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2023, 04:41:16 pm »
Quote from: Martin [Admin] on May 22, 2023, 07:56:29 pm

Partial screwup this evening.... I've glued down the engine mount ( after a LOT of alignment juggling! )....

 .... but in my hast, I forgot to the install the motor (wire) fixings!     >>:-(

                   This going to take a bit of lateral thinking....!


Heat them up and shove them through.

 


 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #123 on: May 23, 2023, 10:17:40 pm »

Today, got motor, shaft installed and radio platform.



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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2023, 03:34:26 pm »
So, which glue have you used then!    :-)


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