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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2023, 11:14:22 am »

Nice to see your progress with the kit Martin  :-))
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2023, 03:16:28 pm »


Part 3 up later this PM ....

Club500 rc boat build - Round  3 - Cutting a Dash! https://youtu.be/MKCPej7ktXc


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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2023, 10:27:38 pm »

You are a demon with those snippers Martin  {:-{ O0
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2023, 10:23:16 am »


.... and I've still got all me digits!   :}2
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2023, 11:49:50 am »

This one’s taking a while Martin, your last one only took a few hours  ;)


https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5993.msg118567.html#msg118567
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2023, 11:50:54 am »

Very interesting - as much for the video itself as the subject.
You have made a good job of telling a story.
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2023, 11:54:22 am »

This one’s taking a while Martin, your last one only took a few hours  ;)

https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5993.msg118567.html#msg118567

That was nearly 16 years ago!

..... I didn't used to make grunt and exhausted noises when I got up or sat down back then Andy!   {:-{

 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2023, 11:55:27 am »


Round 4: This week, glue testing.

 
https://youtu.be/XKck8lIeBLM?si=lCWQwQjmF_CEd4lK
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2023, 08:46:12 pm »


Round 4: This week, glue testing.


This could be interesting .............. O0
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2023, 03:05:23 pm »

Come on….what are you waiting for? Drums fingers
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2023, 03:16:45 pm »

My kit is on it’s way now Martin, so your next riveting (should that be glueing) instalment may just be in time to give an alternative to the flour and water mix that I was going to use  :D
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2023, 03:18:34 pm »


 {-)   Got the test glueing done yesterday..... should be ready for stress testing after dinner tonight!   :-))

 
 
 

   .... now which one was the glue and which one is the mayonnaise ..... ???
 
 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2023, 04:35:32 pm »

Er, Taste test?.


Did you try Plastic Pipe the Plumbers,  Cleaning agent, not the adhesive!! it works just fine and costs a lot less.


Retired Plumber and used it on All Styrene builds,


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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2023, 05:22:21 pm »

Are we going to see it at Mayhem at Wicksteed? ;)
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2023, 07:57:47 pm »

Are we going to see it at Mayhem at Wicksteed? ;)

Yes .... IF I can get it to hold together!   >:-o
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2023, 08:05:11 pm »

Did you try Plastic Pipe the Plumbers,  Cleaning agent, not the adhesive!! it works just fine and costs a lot less.
Retired Plumber and used it on All Styrene builds,
Len.

Which type Len?

 This stuff? -
FloPlast SC250 Solvent Cement - https://www.wickes.co.uk/FloPlast-SC250-Solvent-Cement---250ml/p/175692



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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2023, 09:00:39 pm »

As a matter of interest Martin, are you spending the extra time testing various glues because either:

a) your previous Club500 model fell apart  ;D

…..or

b) the Club 500 models have a history of bond failures?

.…or

c) previously available adhesives have embrittled the plastic used in these kits over a period of time?

…..or

d) advances in adhesive technology may have come up with something better than recommended in the kit building suggestions. 

……or   

e) none of the above :embarrassed:
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2023, 10:36:57 pm »

I used Gorilla glue, still holding..

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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2023, 10:46:52 pm »

I used ‘plastic weld’ for all the internals and ‘Sticks Like Sh*t’ for the Hull/Upper join, so far no probs
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2023, 11:55:30 pm »

I read somewhere that some folks use sealant to fix the deck to the hull. You can get it apart again then if you need to. That would be my choice.

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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2023, 01:11:24 am »

As a matter of interest Martin, are you spending the extra time testing various glues because either:

a) your previous Club500 model fell apart  ;D
…..or
b) the Club 500 models have a history of bond failures?
.…or
c) previously available adhesives have embrittled the plastic used in these kits over a period of time?
…..or
d) advances in adhesive technology may have come up with something better than recommended in the kit building suggestions. 
……or   
e) none of the above [/font] :embarrassed:

a) No.... well not the last time I saw it in the shed!  ( Can't remember what glue I used .... )

b) No, but they can take quite a hard hit in racing.

c) No, not if store away from sunshine ... mostly!

d) Instructions say to use 2 part epoxy  or  Evo Stick “Nail &  Seal”
    … I can’t find any current Evo-stick product called, 'Nail &  Seal', does it have a new name?
     Or do they just not make it any more?  😕
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2023, 02:16:25 am »

I used Gorilla glue, still holding..

I also used Gorilla Glue TLB!  ....  but my results varied from yours .......   {:-{

Club500 boat build - Round  4 - Testing a Gorilla:   https://youtu.be/XKck8lIeBLM
 
 
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2023, 04:31:14 am »

Evo stick nail and seal widely available on the internet
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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2023, 10:48:07 am »

Thanks for the test with the Gorilla TLB - it will save me having to test it.  The brand has become very popular and available from a good variety of suppliers, so it would be tempting to try it. Shame it doesn’t work on the Club500.


PVC pipe adhesive should be a good contender for the job. I glued layers of PVC sheet together and then turned them into a base for the funnel of my TID tug some time ago and it worked really well. Years later (and lots of use on the lake) is is still a solid laminate with no signs of failing.


Your test video was both informative and amusing and I am looking forward to any sequel(s) that your success (and failure) may encourage you to make...... it will certainly prevent me buying and using a glue that does not suit this application  :-))



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Re: Club 500 Build, 2023
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2023, 07:05:08 pm »

Thanks for the test with the Gorilla TLB - it will save me having to test it.  The brand has become very popular and available from a good variety of suppliers, so it would be tempting to try it. Shame it doesn’t work on the Club500.


The test was by Martin, but is not the GGlue I used, it has held everything together ( Engine mount, Battery box etc ) for over 7 years . So for me has worked fine on a Club 500, admittedly does not look great as I used the expanding type of GGlue ( Brown) but then inside look for this type of boat is not really important.
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