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BORIS

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Sheet roofers Lead
« on: November 05, 2007, 11:57:49 am »

i went to buy a roll of sheet lead today for ballast...untill i saw the damn price... :-X £45.00 !!and that was for one of the smallest rolls....the last one i brought 6 yrs ago cost me just £14.00,so i was expecting to pay £25 there abouts .well i put this lead back on the shelf and walked out with nothing..now im stuck for ballasting my "Maggie M" trawler :'( how much do any of you pay for lead sheet rolls..?
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 12:26:14 pm »

 The PLUMB centers have this in there list so depends on how much you want

 F87652     LEAD FLASHING CUT TO SIZE (KILO) CODE 10 7.37 per Kilo

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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 12:28:18 pm »

Lead has gone through the roof cost wise in the last 3 years due to China importing vast quantities driving the price up past £6000 per Ton. The price of car batteries has gone through the roof because of this too , just bought a new battery for the car and that was £65 when the last battery I bought was £40 only 2 years ago !!!
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GARY C

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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 12:55:56 pm »

Not telling you lot were I live !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May come home from the lake/work and find the lead stripped from my roof. {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 12:58:47 pm »

try your local scuba diving shop ?- our local  diving emporium sells weights for divers belts they also sell what appears to be a type of lead shot, - but its not actually lead but a heavy/ dense shot like material.... this can be bonded into a hull with resin / adhesives....

the divers weights are in several sizes - alot cheaper than roofing lead !
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 03:49:43 pm »

Angling shops will be able to help too , ask for non-toxic weights for fresh water fishing ( Lead has been banned from UK freshwater fishing for 8 years or so ).
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 03:57:46 pm »

Hi guys...go to your local friendly tyre shop and see what they do with all their old car tyre balance weights......if you can get hold of some find an old house brick that still has a fitting frog, not holes, and use a blow lamp to melt them into the frog of the brick,  thus creating a nice triangular lead ingot......( you have to pick out the steel fitting clips as you melt them )..



       regards.....bob.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 04:37:55 pm »

Hi guys...go to your local friendly tyre shop and see what they do with all their old car tyre balance weights......if you can get hold of some find an old house brick that still has a fitting frog, not holes, and use a blow lamp to melt them into the frog of the brick,  thus creating a nice triangular lead ingot......( you have to pick out the steel fitting clips as you melt them )..



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Make damn sure its a very dry brick  ::)
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2007, 05:09:38 pm »

you have to pick out the steel fitting clips as you melt them )..
Just a quick tip...use pliers.. O0 not your fingers {-)
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 05:15:31 pm »

pliers is for wimps !!!!!....makes it more interesting if you use your fingers..... :D :D :D ( only joking )
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 05:49:23 pm »

If pouring molten lead into the frog of the brick it is vital that the brick is totally devoid of moisture.  If you are melting the cold, solid lead in the frog with a blowlamp, you dont have to be quite as particular as any moisture in the surface will have been evaporated away long before the lead has melted.  The drier the brick, the quicker the job will be done as you dont have to boil the water away first.
Still a good idea to wear eye protection and do the job outdoors and use them wimpy pliers to pick the bits of floating steel and other stuff out.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2007, 05:58:01 pm »

what kind of brick has a frog? not a builder, so, whats a frog? SENSIBLE repiles only please!  ;D
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2007, 06:34:16 pm »

It's the indentation on one face of the brick.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2007, 06:37:45 pm »

    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, some housebricks had a triangular shaped grouve in the top and/or bottom
     large face, some had round ended grouves. Rather than subject brick to direct heat source I would be inclined
     to put a couple of layers of cooking foil in the depression
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 06:53:49 pm »

Hi, As a bricklayer by trade, I have used the frog methord many many times, I use a pan on a camping stove, you have to put the lid on to keep the heat in the pan, it melts the lead alot quicker, warm the brick first, then pore.

The type of brick you need to look for is from the LONDON BRICK COMPANY.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2007, 07:44:38 pm »

I use an old ali ice cube try from the fridge... the plastic ones aren't so good ;D
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2007, 09:14:12 pm »

Hi guys...i use an old phorpes brick which leaves a nice name moulded in the lead....very attractive.!!!   i tend to put the weights in the brick and melt them with the blow torch..Adding or reducing the amount of weights alters the weight of the ingot..quite handy being triangular aswell , they tend to go into small areas and stay put


                         hope this helps...regards....bob O0 O0 :D
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 09:20:30 pm »

I'm not too keen on melting lead. I just tend to bash the sheet into the shapes I want with a large hammer.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2007, 09:20:52 pm »

I have a friend who is a plumber, and a modeller, and he keeps our club supplied with lead for ballast. Scrap metal merchants are a likely source too.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2007, 09:25:00 pm »

Hi guys...i use an old phorpes brick which leaves a nice name moulded in the lead....very attractive.!!!   i tend to put the weights in the brick and melt them with the blow torch..Adding or reducing the amount of weights alters the weight of the ingot..quite handy being triangular aswell , they tend to go into small areas and stay put


                         hope this helps...regards....bob O0 O0 :D
Your brick has got a misprint, should be Phorpres  O0
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2007, 11:12:46 pm »

people often dump used car batteries on waste ground. A good source of lead but be careful with the acid.
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2007, 12:08:39 am »

I would go for the divers shot weights if there is a shop nearby, they come in heavy duty mesh pouches containing ungraphited lead shot in weights of 1,2 or 3 KG and they will mould to the shape of the hull easier than a lump of solid lead

Trying to melt lead and pouring it into a home made mould can cause all sorts of problems if there is any contaminents around, and at 230 degrees centigrade you do not want that stuff splashing over you
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2007, 11:55:10 am »

I cannot find lead where I am. But I have found hand/wrist weights that have iron shot in them.

I am thinking of fixing these in resin.

I know it is not as dense as lead, and should not go rusty in resin

but any thoughts?
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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2007, 12:19:05 pm »

Got an idea ???????

how about making up strong/sealed bags of very small gravel from any aquatic/pet shop. when sat in the bottom of the hull should self mould into the shape and stay-put.

p.s. I work in the commercial motor trade and yes many items are in short supply, or a big price hike, due to global demand.

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Re: Sheet roofers Lead
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2007, 12:47:27 pm »

Hi richard.....you are correct and therefore win the cigar..the brick is indeed spelt phorpres...probably due to my keyboard skills being on a par with a dyslexic chimp :D :D



            regards....bob..
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