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[17-09]

Hi, Does anybody know what the topside colour of the Cheverton boat was on Brilliant? I do have a picture when she was still under the Red Ensign on delivery with a bright red ships boat. Although very colourful I'm sure it did not stay red for long. I did paint mine red but it looked over the top so dulled it down to more of a crimson shade. Still time to change it again if I get better information.
Many thanks
 17-09   Alan

[17-09]

here is the picture I have

[littoralcombat]

Hi Alan,
So as you will be aware, Brilliant was first Commissioned into the RN on 15th May 1981. Her Ship's Boat had the above water-line hull painted red from then until the Falklands Conflict, throughout which it was grey. The white below water-line was also changed from white to grey. The boat upper-works (coach-roof) remained the original white until she returned home to Devonport, although post Op Corporate, inline with a general RN change, it was also to become grey.
All deck surfaces had pale green rubber anti-slip panels.
The images below show Brilliant:

• Alongside Antrim at Gibraltar preparing for Exercise Springtrain 82, just as the Argentines were making their move in the South Atlantic. Red upper hull evident.
• At South Georgia, entire hull grey.
• Refueling from the Base Support Tanker Alvega at Ascension Island during her voyage home, entire hull grey.
• Cheverton white upper-works showing pale green anti-slip, hull grey.

One tip I can offer is that Brilliant was not fitted with the SCOT domes or the associated upper-deck cabin on 03 Deck (known as SEC, or Satellite Engineering Cabin) until after Op Corporate.
So it depends on when in time  your Model is depicting her Alan.


Hope this helps.
Nige

[17-09]

Hi Nige,
 Again you have come up trumps, thanks so much. As the drawings and most of the info I have is pre Falklands conflict I think I shall have the red finish on the ships boat.
One problem I have is that I have already fitted the SCOTT domes and structures and to remove them will possibly damage the finish I have already obtained, but they can be taken off. I see Jecobin drawings show them in place but you have already told me these drawings are not entirely accurate.
Were the ships crests kept on the 910 tracker radars all the time apart of course in the Falklands?
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.
 Regards  Alan ..

[littoralcombat]

Hi Alan.
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you regarding your latest queries, work has been a bit hectic of late.


Regarding your SCOT fit, I for one would not judge if you left them on, it's your Model. All Ship's have variations of equipment fit throughout their lives, often due to modifications, but also on occasion due to there not being enough to go around as it were.
A perfect example being when we compare the gear carried by Brilliant and Broadsword during Op Corporate. As related, Brilliant did not have SCOT installed, whereas Broadsword did. In contrast, Brilliant had the STWS Torpedo Mounts, but Broadsword did not.


Another variation between the two during the Conflict was that whilst Brilliant had the Cheverton carried on the Stbd Davit, Broadsword carried a Motor Whaler in that position. However, in addition, Broadsword carried a Cheverton on her Port davit which Brilliant was never fitted with (the davits were generic and could carry either type of boat). Sometime after 1982 though, Broadswords fit was made the same as Brilliants, with both the Port Davit and the Motor Whaler being removed.
Another often changed piece of equipment were the RAS Arms. The Ships were designed to carry four, but this was not always the case, with two or three being more common.


Moving on to your question about the Ships Crests on the Type 910 Trackers, these were actually printed/painted on soft removable canvas covers which were white in colour. They were, to the best of my knowledge, purely decorative/ceremonial, the Trackers themselves being designed to be exposed to the elements.


Pictures below which hopefully assist you are:

• A drawing of a Cheverton.
• Broadsword showing action damage but also the Stbd Motor Whaler behind which can be seen the bow of the Cheverton carried on her Port davit.
• A Type 910 Tracker with canvas decorative cover fitted.
• Stern view of Brilliant.

I hope this all helps.
Nige

[17-09]

Hi again Nige,
 Your reply's are very comprehensive and are so useful to someone like myself who cannot find information from normal sources. I thank you again for taking the time and trouble to help, so refreshing.
I believe you told me that you are building HMS Broadsword, the two sisters are very different mainly, from my eye, the funnel shape, I did notice that the Cheverton was on the other side compared to Brilliant, I wondered why this was. It looks like Broadsword had similar damage from cannon fire as Brilliant, the damage is also in a similar place on the hull, I also note the Squadron number, 2 was painted over on the funnel. Its a good job they didn't paint a black stripe down the centre of the ship but I guess it was because the Argies did not have any 22's. I know it was for identification but was it not a good aiming point on the 42's?
 Not long now to getting her finished I will send some pics when on sea trials!
Thanks again
 Alan....