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[john54]

Hi All
Just picked up a rather large g.r.p hull 58 in x 11 x 7 history unknown.
Very badly painted & dodgy fittings (m.t.b/gunboat type !)
It looks VERY wrong to me. But the hull is good & sound a good winter project (i hope)
Anyway any ideas what she used to be before the botch job ?
Cheers

[gingyer]

hi there
I am sure it is a Fairmile D
Kingston mouldings

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdfairmiled.htm

hope this helps

Colin

[john54]

Hi Colin
Looks like thats it.
Iam going to be busy then !
Thanks a lot for that.

John 

[Powered Boat Mouldings]

Hi John
          Looks more like a fairmile B to me. Again another mould form Kingston mouldings.
Could help you out with the fittings and crew http://www.hslmouldings.co.uk/

Regards Rob.

[John W E]

hi there I think it definitely looks like a Fairmile 'D'.  A Fairmile 'B' has a round-shaped hull.  The only thing, the keel looks as if it stops a little bit short on the bottom, but hey that is easily rectified.   Plus, she has only has twin screws.  This may just be a model builder's preference; she should have four screws.   

Some of these craft were used by the Royal Air Force for air sea rescue work.  I am not 100% sure, but, I do believe that one or two of these air sea rescue craft were only twin screwed.  CDS123 is the man to say - yay or nay for that; however, I am sure I read somewhere that one of the things they did to increase range of these craft - while used by air sea rescue was, to remove the 2 inboard props and motors and install long range tanks in their place.

For further reference, you could look for the book written by John Lambert, Coastal Forces and also another book The Anatomy of the Ship The Fairmile 'D; motor torpedo boat, also by John Lambert
ISBN:0 84486 006.

Hope this is of some help.

aye
john e
bluebird

[DickyD]

Send PM to cds123 [Christian] hes the expert on fast launches and patrol vessels.

[Circlip]

Doesn't the "D" have cut downs in the deck? Torpedo clearance? It's just I can't see them on my screen.

[Powered Boat Mouldings]

Hi All
       Took another look at the pictures, the paint and shodows play havoc, and am going to have to agree with Fairmile D

Regards Rob.

[Circlip]

You turncoat, you've bowed to the pressure Still can't see the cut outs? Looking at top edge of deckline, perhaps john54 can give us a picture to confirm? Not trying to start ANOTHER flamer, just trying to qualify. Where are you Christian?

[cdsc123]

Hello everybody  :)

It is a Fairmile D. The early boats had no torpedo scallops (e.g. MTB 624). The tubes of the MTB versions were stood up on tall bases so the fish would clear the gunwhales. I think it must have been modified at some stage, as far as I know the only non-scalloped 1/24th Fairmile D hull on the market is from Deans and it has only just come out. The RAF Long Range Rescue Craft (e.g. 017) all had scallops as they were all converted from fairly late model MTB/MGBs (e.g. MTB 795). As far as I know the long range tanks were deck mounted, flanking the engineroom hatches in pairs. These boats retained all 4 Packards. The boat which drove only 2 shafts from 4 Packards was a Vosper build, MTB 510. She vaguely resembled the Fairmile D, as did the Camper & Nicholson long MGBs. I would tend to leave only the two shafts in place however, as the extra two will not give better performance, indeed the extra weight of everything is likely to slow the model down.

[Circlip]

Thanks cdsc, it's sooo obvious from your pictures, even the bow flare, looked a bit of a bitsa on original photos.

[Powered Boat Mouldings]

Hi all
      Not bowing to pressure ::) just man enough to say I'm wrong somtimes.

Regards Rob.

[kayem]

hi there
I am sure it is a Fairmile D
Kingston mouldings

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdfairmiled.htm

hope this helps

Colin

Mistaken identity, more or less a Fairmile D, but nothing to do with Kingston Mouldings, the one I do is accurate, even John Lambert has approved and admired it. As circlip and others have said, the keel and bow shape on this one are all wrong.

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdfairmiled.htm

[Powered Boat Mouldings]

Hi Kayem
             We never said it was a Kingston hull just suggesting Kingston mouldings as a reference.
It is probably a poor scratch job.

Regards Rob.

[Circlip]

Will ALWAYS hold my hand up when I'm wrong rob, trouble is nowadays no one accepts a "fair representation" and "What is its'" will always create "discussions" unless it's a kit or the originator fesses up, we ALL learn something new, every day

[kayem]

Hi Kayem
             We never said it was a Kingston hull just suggesting Kingston mouldings as a reference.
It is probably a poor scratch job.

Regards Rob.

That's OK Rob, I didn't imagine that you were blaming me for it. If anyone clicks on the link to my site in the earlier post, the three movies you'll find there show a model built on my hull by Mayhem member Flag-D, and as you can see it's an impressive performer in quite choppy conditions, turn the sound up to hear those Packard engines!.

[Powered Boat Mouldings]

Hi Kayem
            I've heard alot of good reports of your D hull when you were developing it from my old friend Mike Harding ( RIP) if he said it's good it's got to be good. Nuff said.

Regards Rob.