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chingdevil

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Deck Planking
« on: February 17, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »

I am shortly going to attempt some deck planking and wondering if the is a formula in the way the planks are laid out. Obviously the ends of the planks should not all end up in line, so how do you work out the step??


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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 09:41:34 PM »

There is information on the Forum Brian but it's all over the place! One of the more relevant posts from Bryan Young reads:

"Cannot comment on "small" craft, but on ships the shift of butts is generally 3 or 4. Either up to the owners or the general practise of the building yard. on "my" ships the length of a plank was between 20' and 30'....depends on what timber is used and where it comes from.
Older Warships could have planks up to around 9" wide, but nowadays I think between 4" and 5" seems to be the norm."

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3399.40
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 10:02:20 PM »

If you haven't already searched this site, then it would be worth doing.

There was a lot of discussion about deck planking, and the offset of the joins on a number of previos threads.

These were some time ago, maybe over a year.
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 11:37:03 PM »

Brian,

I've been involved in the earlier discussions on deck planking and it very much depends on two things: the type and size of craft and the period; and the amount of trouble you are prepared to take. There are a few good sources of information that I know of - I'm sure there are more, but I tend only to know about what I am interested in!

For warships - Norman Ough's British Warship Detail No. 7, Brian King's Modelling Late Victorian Battleships and William Mowll's HMS Warrior book. For traditional wooden ships, David Whites articles in Model Shipwright (reprinted in the 1997 Anthology). If you think any of these might help, let me know and we can sort something out.

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 12:05:04 AM »

There's a formular for joggling as well, which I am sure Bryan Young will know.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 12:19:28 AM »

There's a formular for joggling as well, which I am sure Bryan Young will know.
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I wasn't aware that there was(is) a formula for such a prosaic thing. Something to do with the end being half the width of the plank and then tapered to meet the inboard edge of the next outboard plank. Sounds more complicated than it is...but fiddly
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 12:27:47 AM »

I am shortly going to attempt some deck planking and wondering if the is a formula in the way the planks are laid out. Obviously the ends of the planks should not all end up in line, so how do you work out the step??


Brian
Depends on the type of boat/ship you are building.
I don't reckon that many ships/boats have deck planks longer than 20 to 30 feet long. The  ends are staggered to give maximum separation depending if you want 3, 4 or 5 planks before the pattern repeats itself. I know this is wrong, but just think of something like 5:2:4:1:3 and you will get the idea....in fact, that might work! But draw it out for yourself first and see if you like it.
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 12:29:24 AM »

There is information on the Forum Brian but it's all over the place! One of the more relevant posts from Bryan Young reads:

"Cannot comment on "small" craft, but on ships the shift of butts is generally 3 or 4. Either up to the owners or the general practise of the building yard. on "my" ships the length of a plank was between 20' and 30'....depends on what timber is used and where it comes from.
Older Warships could have planks up to around 9" wide, but nowadays I think between 4" and 5" seems to be the norm."

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3399.40
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 02:02:09 AM »

 O0

"Irreverent"

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 08:14:51 AM »

Relevant to the subject under discussion Bryan - what else?  ;)
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 11:28:18 AM »

Thanks for the information everybody, looks like I need to draw the planks on to a plan of the deck and see what looks the best.

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 12:45:54 PM »

Another consideration is the scale.

this was also discussed previously.

If the scale is very smaill,  it will be neigh on impossible to scale plank. e.g. 1:200 would require planks of less than 1mm. this would not only be hard to do but may not be noticeable.

But using larger planks will still have the same feel/look that is desired.
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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 08:27:07 PM »

The deck that I ripped off this boat was 5mm which is what I am putting back.

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 11:21:43 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 12:44:38 AM »

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2008, 12:22:40 AM »

Found this somewhere, may help.

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2008, 07:34:15 PM »

hope these 2 pics of my nelsons planking are of help to you, put them throug paint shop and zoom in on the planking   O0
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2008, 07:39:18 PM »

hey Brian C, that's not bad planking from B & Q - I didnt know they sold clip together flooring like that for dolls' houses. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)it's about time you finished the decks of the RMS MAURETANIA off O0

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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2008, 08:38:17 PM »

HI JOHN,,,,  b&q my ass, it was timberland  {-) {-) {-) :P O0      it took me three months of planking   (i said planking) to get that effect,   im on a go slow with maury just now,,,  also hes not stated what type of ship hes planking ? O0
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2008, 11:16:29 PM »

Not completely off the subject but….  I’m interested in making my own planking.
Is there a “best method” to do this?
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2008, 11:21:38 PM »

Depends on what scale you are working to and which methods you are comfortable with. Try entereing a search for "Deck Planking" and you will find a great deal of information on the site.

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 12:31:10 AM »

Hi All,

I'm also researching a model - Fleetscale's HMS Vanguard at 1:128 scale (hope to receive hull soon) and need info on planking the deck. Are their any reference material or books that can be recommended for the process with an indication of width and thickness of planking including actual layout near edges etc.

Also, what material is used for planking and where in the UK can I purchase the material either through the post or on-line.

Any help would be most appreciated O0

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Re: Deck Planking
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 02:52:23 AM »

This is where I get all my wood from nowadays:

http://www.euromodels.co.uk/classic/wood.htm

As has been said the scale dictates the sizes but I use 5mm x 1mm lime planks for 1/35th deck planking.  That works out at a 7" width plank in real life and 4mm would be 5.6" planks.

It all depends on what you feel is a more accurate plank width in real life and research on the particular vessel will help you there.
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 08:42:22 AM »

I use lime too, although my local supplier call it "basswood". I use 1/16"  (1.5mm) thick strips of the necessary width.

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