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bigfella

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Jargon
« on: February 20, 2008, 08:48:59 pm »

Hi All

I have just been in contact with a government department and could only understand half the conversation. The reason being that these departments speak in Jargon. In their environment they must have a completely different language of jargon. When they deal with the public, who obviously don't speak Jargon, they look at you as if you are some sort of retarded fool. Why don't they just speak English like the rest of us. Oh and another thing that is over used here in Australian Government Dept's is acronyms, every where you go there is an acronym. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(

I Feel better now

Regards David
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 11:06:58 pm »

Get used to it David, acronyms are here to stay. We are in Sydney at the moment, staying with our son, and our grandsons brought home their primary school newsletter. It had one full A4 page of acronyms normally used in school communications, and their translations, so parents could understand what was being written  ???
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:58:21 am »

... not very much different in Germany either.
Whenever you read a letter from either Tax- or another office you wonder what the `eck they want from you. I wonder if they had visited the same school-system and had learned the same language.... must be from Mars!

Jrg
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FullLeatherJacket

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 08:29:56 am »

Ever noticed that if you write down the word "jargon" quite how much like "arrogant" it looks? Maybe the two go hand-in-hand..... ::)
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 07:47:42 pm »

So that's

RTR, ARTR, PCM, OMRA, etc etc out then  O0
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 07:56:05 pm »

And FLJ.....
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bigfella

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 08:53:54 pm »

Yes, but those are "In house". You would not go to someone outside of the Model boat fraternity and quote all those and expect them to understand what your on about. These departments who speak these jargon are a kin to a secret society, they probably have a secret handshake as well.

Regards David
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 10:25:15 pm »

Beware of the TLAs
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bigfella

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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 10:34:20 pm »

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 11:45:32 pm »

You can always invoke the "AFI" procedure.  As explained to me, it means "I cant really be bothered just now"
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 11:50:02 pm »

In the army I learned.

NFI
SNAFU - like the American FUBAR
SEP - someone else's problem, i.e. not mine.
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 09:48:41 am »

In the RAF it was NAAFI - No Ambition And ****all Interest!

Rick

PS From a meeting with a computer techie, many years ago:
Me - "What's TLA?"
Him - "Three Letter Acronym"
Me - "I know it is, but what's it mean?"
Him - "Three Letter Acro...... are you winding me up?"
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 04:04:51 pm »

A TLA is only a Three Letter Acronym (TLA) if it makes a three letter word; otherwise it is a Three Letter Abbreviation (TLA)

So for example RAM is a TLA, while ROM is a TLA.

Then of course there is the ETLA (Extended Three Letter Acronym/Abbreviation - AKA the FLA) or the EETLA (Extended, Expanded Three LEtter Abbreviation/Acronym AKA the FLA - though this is a different FLA to the ETLA)

Jargon, though, is more than just abbreviations and acronyms. The problem for me is when it is used out of context. It does allow complex concepts to be expressed in simple terms making communications between those in the know simpler. Problem is when it is used to show the individual's brilliance or ot make others seem small or excluded.

Wom
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FullLeatherJacket

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 05:36:21 pm »

Thanks for that, Wom............. I think........

Will there be a DVD of it?

FLJ (Unashamed to be abbreviated...........or was it acronymed........?)
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2008, 11:03:08 am »

Abbreviated!
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2008, 11:21:30 pm »

I worked for a company with a regular flow of new Projects. The first task  of every new Project Team was to decide on the Project Acronym; the next was to decide just what they were going to do...
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 09:33:22 am »

I could not believer that the first one is genuine, but then knowing the Canadians  ::)

Acronym Definition
CRAP Canadian Reform Alliance Party (now Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance)
CRAP Carrying Resentments Against People (12 step recovery)
CRAP Cheap Redundant Assorted Products
CRAP Citizens Raging Against Phones (Grand Theft Auto 3)
CRAP Citizens Revolt Against Poop
CRAP Cloudy Reporting Accounting Principles
CRAP Computerized Response Audience Poll
CRAP Consumer Research and Planning
CRAP Content Restriction and Punishment (aka Digital Rights Management; coined by Richard Stallman)
CRAP Content Restriction Annulment and Protection (aka Digital Rights Management; coined by David Berlind)
CRAP Contrast, Repetition, Alignment, and Proximity (design principles)
CRAP County Rural Addressing Project
CRAP Courts, Roads, Avenues, and Places (mnemonic for East-West Streets in Miami)
CRAP Coventry Residents Against Phish
CRAP Cut Rate Auto Parts (auto parts distribution chain Olympia, Washington)


Courtesy of http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/CRAP

Acronym Definition
FART Fair & Accurate Reporting on Television (Daily Show)
FART Farmers Against Ridiculous Taxes (New Zealand)
FART Fast Action Response Team
FART Fast Armed Response Team (British, never used after realizing what this spelled) :-)
FART Fathers Against Radical Teenagers (popular bumper sticker)
FART Fathers Against Rude Television (Futurama cartoon)
FART Federal Acronym Registration Team (The Daily Show)
FART Fire Alarm Response Team
FART Fire And Rappeller Training/Tactics
FART Fire and Rescue Team
FART Florida Association of Respiratory Therapists
FART Fort Augustus Rally Team
FART Fresh Air Ram Technology
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bigfella

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2008, 09:52:30 am »

FART Farmers Against Ridiculous Taxes (New Zealand) Now this I can say is true because part of NZ governments fight against green house gasses is a yearly tax on farm animals for their Fart emissions of methane $1 for each cow and .50c for each sheep. O0 O0
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Re: Jargon
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2008, 11:04:56 am »

I have a new line manager where I work, if I am in a meeting with him I only ever understand about 25% of what he says the rest is all jargon and one line manager sound bites. He can talk and not make any sense, I think it the way things have gone everywhere.

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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2008, 07:01:02 pm »

Ching- we call it ""xxxxx" Bingo".

In my company we have some pre-printed Bingo-cards. They are all filled up with the typical words the popous a**es use to use in a meeting. Such like: Cashflow, outsourcing, Production Maintenance, Storeline, Just in time... where we often ask: Are we a f*%& ing German company, or what?
Anyway- whenever a boss or one of our manager uses one of the typical words, we cross it on our cards. The first who has 5 diagonal, vertical or horizontal knocks with the finger slightly on the table. So all others know he got it. Du the break we pay him a coffe. One time one of our collegues was so much involved in it, he mentioned loudly: "Bulls**t", and all the rest turned and stared at him. Now we knock on the table....
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2008, 07:12:19 pm »

In Portsmouth, Highbury Technical College had some pretensions of becoming higher profile and encompassing a larger catchment area.
The Original name considered was  South Hants Institute of Technology.
Cant understand why the name was quickly dropped and the original name retained!!!

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Re: Jargon
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2008, 07:13:25 pm »

White Ensign
I think I will print some cards for myself and the other engineers, that sounds like fun. This guy is only 26 and has not been in any production environment as a manager, so he has no idea how to talk to people. As soon as he starts talking I switch off.

Brian
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2008, 07:33:26 pm »

In Portsmouth, Highbury Technical College had some pretensions of becoming higher profile and encompassing a larger catchment area.
The Original name considered was  South Hants Institute of Technology.
Cant understand why the name was quickly dropped and the original name retained!!!

Bob
We had the same problem with our council muppets. They wanted to cal the new University "City University of Newcastle upon Tyne". The Logo would have been interesting.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2008, 08:26:20 pm »

Bryan- sorry to say but
Can`t Understand New Technology....
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