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Roger in France

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UNWANTED EMAIL
« on: March 03, 2008, 07:03:29 am »

I asked in the Forum - a short while ago - how it was that I could receive a commercial advertisement, purporting to come from my own Email address. You chaps kindly helped me understand.

On the same subject. If I now mark such incoming Emails as "Undesirable" so that they are automatically relegated to my "red list" and disposed of will this effect any other traffic e.g. sending myself copies of things?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Roger in France.
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 09:00:45 am »

Hi Roger,
Once you get on these email list, it's almost impossible to get off. I get 20 - 30 emails a day  purporting to come from myself....  >:(
If you do try to blacklist the spam, you just end up locking lock the good emails to.  :-\
In my own opinion, there is no "mileage" or money to be made in shutting down the spammers, so why should they bother.
From the reports I glanced through about the big ISP's setting up an authenticating system for emailing, there was almost a fist fight!   
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 11:40:02 am »

Hi All

I get these emails too. They are usually telling me that my prescription is ready for refilling at a Canadian Pharmacy or some are about shoes, Fake Rolex watches or Viagra and they also keep telling me about my small wedding tackle and what they can do about it. Strange though I don't usually show my tackle to all and sundry {-) {-) {-) What I do is just leave them and dint open them and delete them. I have checked from where they come from but it seems that they keep on masking their origin by using some unsuspecting business email address and changing every time a new email is received. But to be honest would anyone actually buy anything through these emails.

Regards David
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 11:44:43 am »

You mean I've wasted my money ordering the "Stay-Stiff" and "Hung-Like-A-Donkey" pills? And they all seemed so genuine.......

Rick
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 01:04:45 pm »

I have found that routing all e-mail via Google's mail service almost eliminates spam mail. You don't need to use a Google address, you can ask Google to collect mail from your ISP. As FLJ says, "suit yourself", but it works for me. After 2 weeks holiday I had 2 spam emails amongst the 86 mails waiting for me.

Barrie

PS You can use your normal e-mail client to collect mail, you don't have to use webmail.
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 02:05:27 pm »

I use a program called "Clear my mail".  It costs about £20 per annum, but my spam mail has dropped from 200 plus per day to zilch.  Pete M
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 02:28:37 pm »

The free hotmail addresses that I have gather virtually no spam thanks to the filters provided, and the POP3 talktalk address that came with the ISP attracts the attention of the AVG filter, which also seems effective.
Stiil a few bits of rubbish.  It seems that I have once again won 595,890 British Pounds. 
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 02:49:05 pm »

Sounds intriguing Barrie, can you tell me more or point me at the correct Google page?
( I'm currently on 50 junk mails / hour! an hour... >>:-(  )
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 03:11:45 pm »

AOL provide an automatic filter on my Email. Some spam gets through, maybe three a day or so. They don't seem to block anything important.
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 03:56:11 pm »

Hi All

I get these emails too. They are usually telling me that my prescription is ready for refilling at a Canadian Pharmacy or some are about shoes, Fake Rolex watches or Viagra and they also keep telling me about my small wedding tackle and what they can do about it. Strange though I don't usually show my tackle to all and sundry {-) {-) {-) What I do is just leave them and dint open them and delete them. I have checked from where they come from but it seems that they keep on masking their origin by using some unsuspecting business email address and changing every time a new email is received. But to be honest would anyone actually buy anything through these emails.

Regards David
With a forum name like yours I'm surprised they bother...I would have thought that you would be getting scads of propositions instead. BY.
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 05:01:14 pm »

It appears that most of you are missing the point which I was making.

I have a very good France Telecom/Orange Anti-Spam programme that works well. It quarantines anything it suspects is Spam and deletes it after 7 days and so I can review it in case I want to save something which has been quarantined.

No, what I was asking about is Spam that gets through because its sender's address is my address!

I think Martin ("He of Great Knowledge of Boats and Computers", "The Wise One", "The Original Mayhemmer") has got it about right. If I put my own address on my "list rouge" I will be throwing the baby out with the bath water!

Roger in France.
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 07:10:49 pm »

Sounds intriguing Barrie, can you tell me more or point me at the correct Google page?
( I'm currently on 50 junk mails / hour! an hour... >>:-(  )


Martin,

You need to create a Google email account. I think there is an option from the Google UK Homepage - www.google.co.uk ( having got an account I can't get the standard Google page to check). Having got a Googlemail account, its easy to get it to collect your mail from your ISP and to set your Outlook Express or whatever to collect mail from Google - there are how to do it guides. Yoy could always Google 'googlemail' of course ;)

Barrie

Just seen that Tester has provided the link {-)
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 12:05:31 am »

Roger

The fact is that the spammers do that so that they cant be filtered out. On the other hand if you check the properties of the email you will find that it comes from another email address that keeps on changing so if block the sender another address will get through. It is a big business "Spamming" but I still cant see how they actually make money unless the gullable buy their products.

BY
I used to get lots of "Working girls in your city :kiss:" emails and similar until I changed my ISP. Now I get the Viagra ones :'( :'(. I don't think my new ISP likes me.

Regards David
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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2008, 08:39:28 am »

David

Google seems very good at removing those mails - event though the sender is forever changing. I am not sure if they scan for the word, or they look at the actual sender rather than what appears in "From".

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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2008, 05:47:11 pm »

Why spam isn't going away soon

Recently, Symantec said in its February 2008 State of Spam report that 78.5 percent of all e-mail is spam. They also said most of that is now coming from Europe. That's a change from previous reports that had suggested servers in North America were responsible. What the Symantec report doesn't explicitly state is that much of the European spam doesn't come from individuals sitting at their desk pumping out lists. Europe is one of the hotbeds for the Storm worm botnet, notorious for automatically co-opting its victims into spam relays. For example, with the release of a Valentine's Day theme-spam barrage in early February, Jose Nazario of Arbor Networks estimated that Storm has grown by as much as 50 percent in new infections. More ominous, Nazario says "the fact (Storm) is generating lots of money means that it's in (the creator's) interests to keep grooming it, keep growing it." Worse Storm isn't the only big, bad botnet in town.


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Re: UNWANTED EMAIL
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 08:44:41 am »

   SPAM Email making the headlines today.....

Email is ruining my life! - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7281707.stm
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Silly names
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2008, 02:39:24 pm »

Checking my E-mails just now, I pondered who invents the ludicrous names for the alleged "senders" of Spam stuff about big willies, Viagra, naughty girls etc. Do you suppose it's the same person who dream up the names for American TV actors?
All contributions gratefully giggled at.
FLJ (Off to the Pub after a LONG week soldering...............)  :P
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