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Small bench circular saw
« on: March 08, 2008, 03:26:07 PM »

Can anyone suggest a smallish bench top circular saw similar in size, convenience, and hopefully, price, to the Minicraft Circular saw?

The Minicraft's 5mm (wood) maximum depth of cut, is a tad too small for my liking - I'd prefer something in the order of 10 -12mm, though I'd like to keep near  the Minicraft's compact size.

Any ideas would be welcomed. O0

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 04:11:08 PM »

Hi Popeye,  try Hobbies catalogue, they have one which is more versatile than the m/craft one, and it is not much more in price,
round about the 50 mark I got one and it works well.   Al the best   Harry
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 04:20:51 PM »

Proxxon do a cracker for about 70 quid.
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2008, 05:40:06 PM »

I had been toying with the idea of getting a tile cutting saw and changing the blade...or is that a stupid idea? BY
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 07:26:12 PM »

I was wondering about using a tile cutting saw.
But the tile saw that I have is quite coarsely made, and noisy.
I wouldn't rate the table for flatness or smooth sliding of small pieces of wood stock.
Also the guide for straight cutting is inflexible and quite wobbly.
I guess if you were willing to make a false table top (maybe mdf?) and add some extra fancing it could work quite well.
Or, if you have a lathe, you could make a work table to bolt to the lathe bed and use metal slitting saws with a saw blade arbour.
The slitting saws are OK for small cuts, but they bind and burn with deeper cuts as the teeth are not offset like a wood blade.

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 02:48:41 AM »

Hi Popeye,  try Hobbies catalogue, they have one which is more versatile than the m/craft one, and it is not much more in price,
round about the £50 mark I got one and it works well.   Al the best   Harry

I have tred to Google hobbies to no avail.
Is there a web adress on the catalogue please?
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 03:04:11 AM »

you mean the one at the top of the page in the sponsors banner ??

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http://www.alwayshobbies.com/
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 04:29:37 AM »

I have seen the following Proxxon saws on the net. The model numbers are different in US and UK.

Proxxon 37006 for about $120, but it only cuts wood up to 8mm thick. (maybe the 70 quid jobby that was mentioned).

The 38070 is much better and cuts to about 25mm, but costs about US$ 330.

Is there anything on the market that cuts more than 12mm but costs less than 100 pounds?
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Re: Small bench circular saw
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 09:40:22 AM »

were do we get blades for these tile cutters all the blades i have seen need to be of a bigger bore size or am i not looking in the right places
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 10:06:59 AM »

Hi Popeye,  try Hobbies catalogue, they have one which is more versatile than the m/craft one, and it is not much more in price,
round about the 50 mark I got one and it works well.   Al the best   Harry

I have tred to Google hobbies to no avail.
Is there a web adress on the catalogue please?


Try www.alwayshobbies.com

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 10:12:44 AM »

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/79244/Power-Tools/Benchtop-Woodworking/Titan-8-Table-Saw-230V

A bit rough though

Are you referring to build quality of the product or the quality of the cut?  If latter, would a finer toothed blade improve things?

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 10:14:04 AM »

Hi Popeye,  try Hobbies catalogue, they have one which is more versatile than the m/craft one, and it is not much more in price,
round about the 50 mark I got one and it works well.   Al the best   Harry

Hi Big H

Which model/saw are you talking about?
I cannot seem to find what you are talking about.
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 11:02:05 AM »

This one is in the other Hobby Catalaogue (Hobby's not Hobbies!)

http://www.hobby.uk.com/shop/prodpages/page-8E3120.html

More than 50 though. :(

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 12:14:45 PM »

Hi Popeye,  try Hobbies catalogue, they have one which is more versatile than the m/craft one, and it is not much more in price,
round about the 50 mark I got one and it works well.   Al the best   Harry

Hi Big H

Which model/saw are you talking about?
I cannot seem to find what you are talking about.


This is the long established Hobbies of Dereham, Norfolk

On home page
> Tools - and view Mini Tools and/or Hand Tools

Two are offered at between 160 - 200 which is a tad too pricy for my liking. I'll try Barriew's lead first but I guess I'll end up sticking  to my hand saws. :-\
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 12:20:31 PM »

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Are you referring to build quality of the product or the quality of the cut?  If latter, would a finer toothed blade improve things?

I was referring to the overall quality of the machine really, a bit flimsy  :-\

I wouldn't try to fit a saw blade onto a tile cutter, saws aren't meant to spin at such high speed & if one fractured the carnage is unthinkable  :'(
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2008, 12:46:18 PM »

Tile cutter...
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_5274.htm

For Funtimefrankie.

Aldi's tile cutter would do fine in all respects, but, would it also cut wood/ply cleanly (up to 12mm thick)
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2008, 02:39:50 PM »

Hello Popeye, the reply above from AndyGH is quite unequivocal ! DO NOT USE A  Circular Saw Blade  in a Tile Saw. The speeds are different as they're doing totally different jobs. A Tile Saw will be spinning in excess of 120M/min yes that little daimond blade really is whinging around. Whereas a Wood Saw will only be doing in excess of  70 M / min The torque required to cut wood based materials dictates the slower speeds. The other reason the blade outer diameters and also the bore sizes are different is exactly the reason why they are not compatible !
I deal on a daily basis in professional hand and power tools and cannot recommend anything under the 300 mark for quality Table Saws admittedly they are designed for carpenters and not overly suitable for modellers in the sizes we work in. Proxxon has my money on being the most suitable. This is the website of the UK Importers where you will find links to your local stockist or are able to order online direct.  http://www.brimarc.com/home.php3?page=products&pc=C_105

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2008, 03:08:02 PM »

home depot sells a ryobe 10'' table saw for a $100. us
all my other ryobe tools have been top quality

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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2008, 06:21:47 PM »

Hi Tiger Tiger, my deepest apologies old chap,  I have not been able to get on line for the past few days but here is the info on the table saw you and others required.
PAGE 136 HOBBY'S ANNUAL 2008   MINI BENCH SAWPRICE 60:49.  www.hobby.uk.com   phone 020 87614244  9am - 5pm  only
Once agin my apologies.    Harry.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2008, 12:39:16 AM »

Thanks big H
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Re: Small bench circular saw
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2008, 06:48:51 PM »

I suppose it depends on what you want the saw for. I cut all my deck planks (down to 1/8" or less wide) on the band saw. If you cut 5 or 6 thicknesses the cut can be very clean. Doing one thickness at a time gives raggy edges. My personal opinion is that a band saw properly set up can do most of the things a little circ. saw can do....if you have the right blade fitted. Tile cutters DO work, but you will need to make an arbor to take a thin slitting saw blade and adjust it so the blade tips just penetrate the depth of the timber you are cutting.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2008, 10:25:56 PM »

Bryan, I think you're pretty much right about the band saw. But perhaps the key difference is in the amount of setup required.
I set my own band saw up pretty carefully but it does go out quite easily for fine work. The blade just inherentlay has more flex and 'wander' than a circular one.
The small table saw just does these cuts without the same preparation.

Another factor for fine cutting thing is to minimise the size of the slot in the table around the blade. This makes sure that the thin piece being cut is supported by the table as much as possible.

Regarding the previous comment on the speed of the different saw types I'm not sure this is a problem. The tile saws I have seen/owned are specced at 3000 RPM, my hand held circular saws run at 5000rpm.

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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2008, 11:07:02 PM »

I don't get it, what's the point of going to the trouble of buying a cheap tile cutter & then converting it to accept saw blades via an arbor or whatever when you can buy a cheap table saw which is made for the job? I have both in my workshop & they are equally as flimsy & both cost around 40 or 50....... oh and the tile cutter runs at twice the speed of the saw

Something to contemplate when you're on your way to A&E   :o
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