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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2012, 04:40:11 PM »

hi again, phew......found em

Part 19: its the RX battery tray and it sits on top of the keel at the back of the boat between the rudder post and the servo mounting and it is glued directly on top of the keel - not essential though  :-))  

Gis mare warning next time - I have a funny filing system in place for me plans - find them in the end its called - can we have some pics of your build  :-)) :-))

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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #126 on: July 01, 2012, 01:59:29 PM »

thanks for that
i'll take some photo's as i go along they will not be as good as yours though
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #127 on: July 01, 2012, 03:35:56 PM »

some photo's as promised
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2012, 06:05:56 PM »

Just joined the forum after a dry spell of boating. I've been reading about the Swordsman and builds - wondering if I can get a digital of the plans to save on shipping to the US?
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #129 on: July 21, 2012, 07:06:59 PM »

hi ya
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I know Dave from ACTion (he originally drew these plans) used to be able to send them via email I think

However, since Dave handed the plans to MyHobbies store (again, for the 2nd time  ;D) I am unsure if Dave still sends them electronically - you check with Dave from ACTion)  :-))

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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #130 on: August 02, 2012, 06:01:03 AM »

Thanks! Got the plans! One question - anyone know where I can find 2mm liteply in the US? Can I substitute 1.5mm for it? We have 1/8" instead of 3mm and that is my plan since they are the "same"
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #131 on: August 02, 2012, 07:43:14 AM »

If you can't obtain Liteply by mail order from the UK then I suggest medium or hard 1/8" balsa for the deck and frames and 1/32" birch ply for the skins.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2013, 06:06:14 PM »

I found some 3mm lite ply in the U.S. For the parts that requite the 2mm you say it would be better to go with 1/32"? I was thinking 1/16" because that is closer to the 2mm mark but I'll go with 1/32" if you think it's better. Thanks!
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #133 on: January 20, 2014, 10:33:49 AM »

CAN ANY BODY LET ME HAVE A PDF COPY OF THE SWORDSMAN PLAN WITH IMFO ON WHAT SIZE TO PRINT IT TOO.IE A4 OR WHAT. ITS WILL BE MY FIRST BUILD OF A BOAT I AM NEW TOO MODEL BOATS .I WILL ALSO NEED A RECEIVER 27 MHZ AM. I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TRANSMITTER AND SERVOS. ANY HELP WOULD BE VERY WELCOME.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   MANY THANKS BADGER.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #134 on: January 20, 2014, 10:37:09 AM »

Hi Badger and welcome to Mayhem.

Please do not type in capital letters as it's regarded as shouting on the web.   :-))

Best of luck with your new build and quest.

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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #135 on: January 20, 2014, 11:20:17 AM »

hi ya Badger and welcome to the Forum
 
I am unsure whether anyone can supply you with the plans in PDF format.   Maybe someone on the Forum has them and may offer you them.  I do know Mr Milbourn who originally drew this plan and offered it in PDF format has since handed over the plans/rights to My Hobbies Store - so you could obtain them in printed form for 12.50 and well worth it too.  At least then you dont have the bother of wondering if the plans are printed out correctly or trying to resize them and running into all sorts of printing problemos etc.    A link follows to take you to the printed version of the Plans:-
 
http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/33952/swordsman-plan-mm2058
 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #136 on: January 20, 2014, 12:34:58 PM »

I AM NEW TOO MODEL BOATS .I WILL ALSO NEED A RECEIVER 27 MHZ AM. I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TRANSMITTER AND SERVOS. ANY HELP WOULD BE VERY WELCOME.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   MANY THANKS BADGER.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #137 on: January 20, 2014, 03:33:42 PM »

Hello Badger,
                       Welcome to model boating , plans are at hobby store ,  as 27meg radio for get it ,
                  go for2.4ghz gear planet is a good starter,.... or look at Howes Hobbies for more choices ,... 27meg is a aircraft allocated channel


                           best of luck in starting cheers Larry....
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #138 on: January 20, 2014, 03:39:09 PM »

hi ya Larry
 
27 mghz - although an old frequency - and is prone to a lot of interference from CB radios etc - is for land and air use - it is, apart from 2.4 mghz frequency, the only frequency allocated to be used with aircraft/boats/cars/tanks.
 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #139 on: January 21, 2014, 04:22:44 PM »

Hi guys, after reading this, I was inspired to 'ave a go at my own Swordsman. Have the hull almost complete now, but skinned with 1/16 ply ( because I had some). I found the blog very usefull, thanks. ok2  I hope my model comes out as good as some of the photo's on here, WOW.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2014, 09:53:08 PM »

Well. . .   I started on mine the other week its the 33" Phillip Connolly plan and scaled up to 50"  :-))
then with a 26cc 2 stroke . .  oh yes


And yes that's a 3 seatter settee in the back ground LOL
 

 

 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #141 on: July 16, 2014, 09:01:59 PM »

Evening all.

Well after much deliberation i've decided to build a Fairey Swordsman from the Dave Milbourn plans that I was kindly sent by a forum member.

I have decided to scale them up to 125% as I felt the original was a little small.

I've cut out all the parts and have a couple of queries if you'd be so kind.

1. Are the smaller holes in ribs 11 & 12 for wiring only?

2. Should part 14 sit horizontally parallel to the keel as the cut part #3 has an angle on it?

I'll try posting some build pictures as I go along and i'm sure i'll be back with more questions.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #142 on: July 17, 2014, 08:06:12 AM »

Morning Wally
 
To answer your questions - yes sort of and yes and yes  :-))
 
The frame with 3 holes in - the centre large hole is for the prop shaft and coupling to pass through.
 
Good luck with the build - I think you will be having to put a lot of extra stiffing in along with supports into the build - if you are building it all from 3mm lite ply.   No doubt you will have to build up the thickness of the frames of various other parts - cos of the size that you are building your model at.
 
If you go back through this questions and answers thread there is a photograph of the Swordsman alongside an RAF model to compare the sizes and I think you will be surprised at the size of this 'little' model.
 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #143 on: November 02, 2014, 11:50:54 AM »

Ok so I had better catch up on this thread  so carrying on here goes

The rear was in need of adding some timber to fit the transom bulkhead too


 
Gimme some skin Bro . .  LOL  Adding some skin and filler as I go. . .
 

 
 Now that looks better. .  bit of filler rub down and . . . .

Yep thats about  it


 
So this new FOAM stuff in a tin . . .
 


and to add the last bit



Adding more wood . .. 


 
Making sure the Cabin sits just right and then a varnish on top deck



Yep it fits so out with the spray cans . . .
 

 
Clamp in the plastic for the windows


 
A trip to Maplins for a water proof box ( wanted a big one with clear lid )
Throttle on the right with a Micro switch  FAIL SAFE KILL SWITCH   :-))

Bit of blue on the rear


OK Kids Bath time . . .
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The Gel battery on ther rear was the amount needed to balance her out as the Tuned pipe gave that little bit of extra weight on the Port side
OK sea trials. . . . Or local lake will do


 
And then of course the video
Well thats it folks I built this as I was getting fed up with the price of Model glow fuel around the 30 a gallon mark . . .  hello fuel makers its a hobby . . . and a gallon of petrol and oil mix works out to around 7 a gallon
( two stroke oil is around 11 a Litre and you mix 300mm to a gallon sort of )
So thats my Swordsman build. . .
I have added a pulpit rail and figures just to get the finishing touches done .. .
She runs for about 15 minutes on a tank full and the joy of a big boat on a lake in summer is so refreshing
so 120 of ebay for the QJ (zenoah look alike engine ) cant fault it in total its cost me around 400 with motor wood. . . wood glue . .  paint fittings etc
Would I build another . . . well yes im looking at a MTB around the same size
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #144 on: November 02, 2014, 03:54:19 PM »

Good stuff, Gazza! Reminds me a lot of the original Huntsman 31 (46") prototype on Danson Park lake circa 1972. Fuel for our HP 61 was around three quid for a gallon. You can't beat a Fairey deep-vee for corners; turns like it was on rails.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #145 on: November 03, 2014, 01:04:06 PM »

Thanks Dave . .   :-))
Yes its a shame how the price on model stuff keeps going up. . . the model fuel is a killer to the hobby I think. .  any way it will be at the Warick show hopefully Leicester King Lear Lake
 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #146 on: November 10, 2014, 09:38:05 AM »

Warwick Show  :-))
 
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #147 on: November 17, 2014, 08:25:19 PM »

Hello all

regarding the sheeting for the sides of the swordsman, the plan calls for 2mm liteply which is hard to find and very expensive here. i have a good amount of 3mm poplar, which is similar to liteply and i know it will do good for the main frames, but regarding the sides i was thinking to use 3mm balsa or maybe 2.5mm balsa.

do you think it will do just fine, i was considering using fiber cloth for sheeting instead of tissue and dope.

any thoughts?

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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #148 on: November 17, 2014, 11:11:10 PM »

I'd use the 2.5mm balsa, especially if you're going to fibreglass it afterwards.
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Re: Q & A - Swordsman A PLAN FOR BEGINNERS by Bluebird
« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2014, 01:45:42 AM »

Well. . .   I started on mine the other week its the 33" Phillip Connolly plan and scaled up to 50"  :-))
then with a 26cc 2 stroke . .  oh yes


And yes that's a 3 seatter settee in the back ground LOL
 


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