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Mountbatten Pink?
« on: July 19, 2006, 05:32:43 PM »

Just visited the Broads Museum at Stalham, Norfolk. A showcase full of miniature (1:700??) models included a Fairmile MTB, some of which were apparently built in Broads yards.

This one was painted pink, apparently on the orders of Peter Scott, the naturalist, as he considered it to be a good camouflage colour - obviously he had missed a few geese while out wildfowling!

I know very little about the wartime RN, but I believe there was also a camouflage colour called Mountbatten Pink. Are two these the same colour? If so, did Mountbatten pinch the idea from Scott?

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Re: Mountbatten Pink?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 06:08:25 PM »

Hi Rick

This will be of interest...

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=354.0

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Re: Mountbatten Pink?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 07:51:57 PM »

Yes, some interesting bits about the origin of the colour - but no mention of Peter Scott. Is his contribution a myth? Or were they two different colours?
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Re: Mountbatten Pink?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 08:15:26 AM »

Gentlemen, I`ve found this page, probably it is out of any interest for you.
http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/querrnww2_e.htm

We have had this discussion about the correct mixture in the SWA very often, but to be honest I doubt the colour called "Mountbatten pink" on this page very much as it seems much to dark.
Anyway, it`s worth a try.

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Re: Mountbatten Pink?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 08:22:37 AM »

Another source with an image of "Mountbatten Pink".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten_Pink
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 09:56:14 AM »

I've dug a little deeper into this, and found the following from Wikipedia:

"During World War II, Scott served in the navy, emulating his father. He was in the "little ships" against German E-boats. He is also partly credited with designing 'shadow camouflage', which disguised the look of ship superstructure."

There is also this long article, detailing Scott's theories

http://www.shipcamouflage.com/3_3.htm

From the above, there appear to be two "Scott" schemes and "Mountbatten Pink":

PETER SCOTT TYPE

Unofficial in origin.

Worn by destroyer BROKE during latter part of 1940. Later worn by a few Flower class corvettes during the first part of 194l. Used by small numbers of Coastal Forces craft during 1941 and 1942. Which actual ships used it is not known.

Colors used: light blue, light green, 507C, and white.

Decks: believed as peacetime practice - may have varied between ships.

Masts and topmasts: White.

Athwartship vertical surfaces: Same as 1942 Western Approaches type.

Countershading: As l942 Western Approaches type.

MODIFIED PETER SCOTT TYPE

Semi-official in origin.

Used from around mid 1941 to mid 1942. Worn by all types of vessels from corvette size up to and including destroyers.

Colors used: 507A, dark blue, white, and sometimes MS 1.

Decks: As peacetime practice.

Masts and topmasts: White.

Athwartship vertical surfaces: Same color as adjacent surface.

Countershading: No information available.

MOUNTBATTEN PINK TYPE

Unofficial in origin.

Believed used by several ships from cruiser size down during 1940, 1941, and 1942,

Colors used: Mountbatten Pink (dark), Mountbatten Pink (light).

Decks: As peacetime practice.

Topmasts: White. Athwartship vertical surfaces: Mountbatten Pink.

Countershading: No evidence that countershading was used.

Which rather disproves what the museum caption claims. Pity, I was hoping that Mountbatten, a man for who I have little regard, would have been shown to have pinched his idea from Peter Scott!

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Re: Mountbatten Pink?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 07:43:21 PM »

Yes, no connection between the Peter Scott Western Approaches schemes and Mountbatten Pink in anything I have read. Check the White Ensign Models website for colour cards and ready to use paints.
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