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Kimmii89

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Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« on: January 29, 2012, 10:53:26 pm »

Hi all new to this so quick description of what i want to do and why.

I'm trying to find all the information i need on how to make my very own model yacht which is Gipsy Moth IV i have never made a boat model before so i would like help with the all i need to know and what i might need and where to find it I'm not building it to where i can use it just as a show boat at home might sound a bit extreme as being my first build and a newbie to it all but i really want to build the Gipsy Moth IV as it is very important project to me in 2006 i sailed on the Gipsy Moth IV and was one of the best experiences Ive ever lived and like i said would just like it to be on show as a keepsake to myself any help give will be very much appreciated.

so if people could please start me of with the ins and outs of what the basics are will be brill.

many thanks again Kim.
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 11:02:25 am »


Here's a Web site of Gypsy Moth IV

regards

Ken

http://www.gipsymoth.org/

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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 01:07:16 pm »

Kim

Go for it - we are behind you all the way :}

What sort of size have you in mind?  and what are your practical skills?
and how accurate/detailed finish do you need to satisfy you?

for a very good, and possibly relevant account of doing something just like this you might like to have a look at
Dreadnought's build of Racundra
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=22679.0

Do you insist on a planked model, or could you carve the hull from a big lump of blue foam and plank that - perhaps with thin card or 1/32 balsa?

All the pics I remember of GM lV have her as pretty basic finish, cluttered to bits with gear and weary from miles of ocean

Whatever the answers to all the questions above you really need to start with some good 3-views of her, (preferably with the sections, waterlines and buttock lines)

If you enlarge the 3-views to your required size - then you can cut a block of blue foam to the right hull dimensions and shapes - then carve and sane until GM lV appears out of the dust :}
more tomorrow (limited access at lunch)

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Kimmii89

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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 05:08:03 pm »

Thanks ken i know of the website but doesn't give me any information I need I had emailed the UKSA which is who I went through when I sailed gipsy moth IV but havnt heard anything back yet but thanks again.

And to be honest I don't know what size I just want the best size of a yacht to keep at home so what is the best size maybe 2 feet long and I'm not sure what is needed to be able to build it I don't understand most of the terms that are used about models as I've said I am a newbie I had a look at blue foam and looks to be something i could possibly do my skills are a nil but I'm always wanting a new challenge and all I could do is keep trying if I get it wrong but all in all I'm willing to try anything but if there is possibly anyone who knows someone who makes them for people that also would be ideal as then I cannot get it wrong all I want is a model replica to the gipsy moth IV.


Thanks again guys.

If no one makes them for other people step by step guide would be a big help and someone who wants to be interested in helping me.
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 05:18:12 pm »

 Hello,

Here is a finished model, BUT, lookat the price !!!.

http://www.solid-brass.com/modelboats/gipsymothiv_photo.html


john.  :((
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 05:32:03 pm »

Hello,
Here is a finished model, BUT, lookat the price !!!. http://www.solid-brass.com/modelboats/gipsymothiv_photo.html
john.  :((

It also sounds from the description as though they haven't heard of Joshua Slocum either !  %)
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Kimmii89

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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 05:44:16 pm »

Blimey the price is a bit wacky but all together to build my own gipsy moth what's cheaper to buy it or to make it but to be fair looking at that it was before I had sailed on it I have photos of my own of when I was on the gipsy moth it looks different let's just say if I bought that one for that price could I change things to what it looks like in my pictures there no drastic changes just a few minor things here and there would it be worth it and can you do it to a model that's already made.

Really can't believe you actually found one of them I'm chuffed to see one made up.


Thanks Kim.
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 05:53:06 pm »

Kim if you are thinking about 2ft long I would like to suggest you go for a fixed scale of 1/24th (1/2 inch to the foot) which would make it 26.5 inches long
and allow you to get some parts from kit manufacturers - things like blocks and fairleads etc.


Mike Though Joshua Slocum was probably a better sailor his journey round the world was not not-stop like Chichesters,  in this Chichester was the first.

Geoff
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 06:03:38 pm »

Mike Though Joshua Slocum was probably a better sailor his journey round the world was not not-stop like Chichesters,  in this Chichester was the first.
Geoff

My point is that  ......  " Sir Francis Chichester did what nobody had ever done before. During the previous five centuries no daring adventurer had ever sailed anywhere alone, not Cook, not Columbus, not Drake, not Game, not Balboa, not Cortes, no one" ....  was blatantly untrue..... Joshua Slocum did it first ....  :-))
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Kimmii89

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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 06:21:49 pm »

Thank you Geoff will be looking into now I know a size what are the best things to start of with for the keel and hull heard the blue foam seen some in wood and plastic.

Even though I sails the gipsy moth and all the storie I read about Chichester it did state he didn't even like the boat because of things it didn't do and the things that was wrong with it we had a fair few nail biting moments on it but here I am wanting to build a model because it was a brilliant thing to do no matter how hard the times were.

Thanks Kim.
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Re: Help With Building My Very First Yatch
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 09:53:07 pm »

Thanks for the kind words, Andrew.  :embarrassed:

As a point of reference, my build of Racundra started precisely because:

1/ I am fascinated by the boat and its owner.
2/ I found plans for it.
3/ I have acquired some of the skills to do it justice.

For Kimmii89, you seem to have the first of these three. "2" might be aided by the original builders (Camper and Nicholson in Gosport). Try writing to them - they may surprise you. "3" comes with practice and copious time wasted spent on Model Boat Mayhem.

If it's your dream, you will achieve it.

As to the model listed in this thread, the price (assuming it's US dollars) is ok. The Racundra has cost me about £200 in materials so far. I'm probably halfway there (for an R/C model). Cheap when looked at over a two/three year build cycle, and not far off the price of a completed, non-sailing, Gipsy Moth IV model you could have in your home in a few weeks.

Looking into GMIV, I like this quote from Chichester:

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I would sell [Gipsy Moth IV] any day. It would be better if about a third were sawn off. The boat was too big for me. Gipsy Moth IV has no sentimental value for me at all. She is cantankerous and difficult and needs a crew of three - a man to navigate, an elephant to move the tiller and a 3'6" chimpanzee with arms 8' long to get about below and work some of the gear.

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