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Re: Leaping spiders???
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2008, 07:12:37 pm »


Dear All,

... and then then there is the Camel Spider that lives in the Middle East. It can grow to a leg span of about a foot, very long legs, stands tall, and can not only run extremely fast, but, when cornered WILL jump up and bite anything - I should have mentioned it is also rather poisonous! - to anything! How do I know about this... well, a friend of mine is in the oil Industry and was based out in Oman for a while, and one day while going walkabout he saw this Arab armed with a shovel chasing after something at great speed and with much intent and determination... he asked what was going on, and that's how I know!!! Sorry to say, that if a creepy crawlie surprises me and infringes on my personal domain and territory in the process, it's dead... no two ways about it... very partic. the high speed varieties. However, and if prepared, I will do my best to put it back in it's domain... viz., outside!

A friend once kept all sorts of snakes and, after being pressured to going to see the damn things,  insisted on taking one out. I gave him fair warning that if he dropped it, that whilst the snake might be fast, that as soon as it touched the ground it would be dead!!! - in a billionth of a second! - and I would take no responsibility whatsoever for my actions!

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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2008, 02:44:27 am »

cant say spiders bother me that much but one night i woke up and there was one hanging about an inch away from my face and i swear it was the size of a small car. i nearly  ****  myself. needless to say it was dispatched to spider heaven.

A Fiat Uno, or a Saxo size? :o ;)
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2008, 09:02:39 am »

A Fiat Uno, or a Saxo size? :o ;)

Nah, you dumbo! An Alpha-Romeo 2-seat convertible............

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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2008, 11:30:55 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2008, 11:48:24 pm »

Geez! Now that is one spooky-looking piece of work. Imagine finding THAT mother under the duvet!
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Re: Leaping spiders???
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2008, 04:57:31 am »

Here is a beauty,

a local resident in SW China. About 2-3" across the legs.
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2008, 06:23:33 am »

About 15 years ago whilst working in forestry, we were clearing a section of land from dead growth for re-planting. We came across this rather large tree approx. 4 -5 feet across the base and decided to cut down before it fell down and destroyed everything in its path..
As I was cutting in with a large chain saw had noted that the centre of the trunk was hollow and had to take extra precautions. It took some 90 minutes before this huge tree decided to make its way earth bound. Leaping sideways as the tree fell to earth with a tremendous thump, My offsider and I noticed that the ground was shimmering rather strangely for about 30 - 50 yards around us.

My mate asked "what in the hell is that", my response to him " look down to your boots". Apparently the hollow tree was the nesting place of Huntsmen Spiders (as Bigfella above noted). It was a carpet of spiders - never seen so many - more than in Indiana Jones Movie, their were literally thousands of them all around.

CURED MY FEAR OF SPIDERS ONCE AND FOR ALL.... :angel:

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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2008, 05:28:42 pm »

cant say spiders bother me that much but one night i woke up and there was one hanging about an inch away from my face and i swear it was the size of a small car. i nearly  ****  myself. needless to say it was dispatched to spider heaven.
Better a lttle itsy bitsy spider hanging there than a 2" cockroach drinking out of your nose! (Unless it is one of them jumping redbacks that the aussies keep as pets).
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2008, 10:41:44 pm »

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Just remember, they are more scared of you than you are of them

A few years ago I was on my way from work and got got caught in a traffic jam, as I was parked a bit away from the sourse I looked down the stationary line of traffic only to see a flash of white, into gear we go and down the right hand lane only ony to come accross this Moderated copper trying to get a swan off the road how? He was chasing it with his Volvo with the blue lights on. The poor bird was terrified, I stopped the silly Moderated in his car and managed to grab hold of the bird and get it into my Land Rover. Some people just have no idea do they.

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Re: Leaping spiders???
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2008, 10:44:53 pm »

What did it taste like Andy and how many did it feed ?  :-\
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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2008, 12:41:39 pm »

How many did it feed? Quite a few....

Some years ago I was doing a class for electrical students, time was nearly up to morning coffee break (with sarnies-of course) and minds were starting to think of things other than the delights of the subject I was teaching.
One of the lads (from a very rural area) suddenly asked if I could cook a proper meal, you know meat and stuff.
I said that I could and went on getting my gear tidied away for the break.

He looked rather palid at this time...
"How long would you cook a swan for Sir?"
A what?
A swan, you know those big white things that fly.
How the hell would I know that? Apart from the fact that my mind said something about it being illegal to kill them. Better than that, why do you want to know?

The story came out, they had been called out to an overhead line fault and found that the cause of the fault was a bird strike (said swan). It was obviously dead with a broken neck and some burn marks from it's encounter with the high voltage conductors.
The crew made up their minds that it shouldn't have died in vain and promptly wrapped it up to carry home.
One of the gang took it home and prepared it and then found that the equation of large swan (plucked and cleaned by then) to one oven (domestic size) does not compute.
"He had to remove it's legs and neck to get it into the oven". "Even then he had to use a lot of force to get it into the oven, it was a big b****r was that bird".
One of the students (who will always ask the questions that you really don't want to know the answer to) then asked how this was done.
Simple, you take a hacksaw and......
One lad asked if he'd used a new blade in the saw. "Nah, he just used the one that was in the frame". Just to think of what that blade had been used for previously...

A horrible silence greeted this and a few faces looked a bit green.... Oh boy, just what you need to think of over your morning brew and sarnie.

To end this discussion I asked him if the final step had been to consume said swan, and just why did he want to know if I could cook meat.

"Well really Sir, I just wondered if you knew the cooking time for swan, the guy had done it for many hours and it appeared, to me, that it was not fully cooked when he brought the cold sliced meat into the depot to share out among the crew"." For future reference sort of thing you know, just in case he had got the cooking time screwed up." (The "cook" was also in deep trouble at home with his missus because he had blocked the drain from the sink with the amount of fat this thing had produced during the cooking).

And did you eat it? If you did what was it like?
"Tried a bit" said the lad," tasted bloody terrible. Never again."

The class was by now looking at him as though he had just admitted being a cannibal with more than a few murmurings of what practices these people from the far flung areas get up to.
The lad looked a bit upset when I reminded him that, although my mind was like a rubbish tip and that I could remember odd bits and pieces about a lot of things, this was an engineering department and not a domestic science lesson. Better than that, I was very unlikely to be the next T.V. cooking guru with the speciality of the menu being swan and how to cook it. 

That was the first, and likely the only time in my memory, that there was not a stampede to get to the canteen for the morning break.

And as for the starter of this thread, Mr PMK, methinks that you are trying to pull some wool (high quality maybe) over peoples eyes. Everyone knows that you don't get large creepy crawlies in Somerset. The mystics down around Glastonbury cast them all out many years ago! Or could it have been the after effects (withdrawal symptoms) from a generous helping of the old white lightning that is so popular around the area.


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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2008, 12:51:27 pm »


And as for the starter of this thread, Mr PMK, methinks that you are trying to pull some wool (high quality maybe) over peoples eyes. Everyone knows that you don't get large creepy crawlies in Somerset. The mystics down around Glastonbury cast them all out many years ago!

Not cast out, cast in. Cast in to the pot, a very tasty too. Why? some may ask. Well; I likes a leg, the missus likes a leg, the dappers they all likes a leg...
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2008, 12:54:12 pm »

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Or could it have been the after effects (withdrawal symptoms) from a generous helping of the old white lightning that is so popular around the area.
The spider in the original post wasn't really that big.  It would not have needed to drink much white lightning to take PMK on.
A colleague of mine many years past worked as a lineman in a rural area, and come the season of the year, there would be an increase in the number of reports of phones not working.  He took good care to carry a short length of cable with pellet damage in his van.  Having sorted the problem, he would proudly show the "trophy".  The farmer would then usually say "Ah. Tha'sd better 'ave a brace o' these."  A free duck dinner was always welcome, and a guilty conscience can always be exploited.
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2008, 11:11:35 pm »

Just watched Arachnophobia - they come in all sizes and CAN jump! (they can even do the side step!)
I'm just about to tape up all orifices, fumigate the hermetically sealed dry suit and go to bed, but not before usesing some of that stuff John Goreman used in and around the bed room.

Is it true we eat / swallow on average 6 spiders a year - or am I just lucky?

Stay Safe
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2008, 12:28:00 pm »

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Or could it have been the after effects (withdrawal symptoms) from a generous helping of the old white lightning that is so popular around the area.
The spider in the original post wasn't really that big.  It would not have needed to drink much white lightning to take PMK on.
A colleague of mine many years past worked as a lineman in a rural area, and come the season of the year, there would be an increase in the number of reports of phones not working.  He took good care to carry a short length of cable with pellet damage in his van.  Having sorted the problem, he would proudly show the "trophy".  The farmer would then usually say "Ah. Tha'sd better 'ave a brace o' these."  A free duck dinner was always welcome, and a guilty conscience can always be exploited.

reminds me of a line crew i were having a coffee break with. they went to a power outage and along the wires there was a row of birds legs. apparently one touched the live bit and passed the shock along to all his mates and it literally blew their legs off.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2008, 11:24:12 am »

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along the wires there was a row of birds legs. apparently one touched the live bit and passed the shock along to all his mates and it literally blew their legs off.

This thread is taking some strange turns methinks.
If this tale is to be believed, someone had better think of a very sound technical explanation!

In practice, linesmen can operate at up to 400kV (in the UK) working "barehand" i.e. they are raised to the line voltage. Their only protective equipment while doing this are overalls with metalised thread woven into the fabric. The overalls have hoods, peaks on the front and a face cover. They are fitted with a flexible cable which is attached to the line so that the overalls (and thus the linesman) is at full line voltage. These overalls are worn to protect the operator from the effects of a power discharge known as corona - which appears as a violet/purple glow at any high spot on the conductor - in this case the high spot would be the linesman!
Oh yes, the other factors involved, a hell of a lot of safety procedures before, during and after such work!

The effects of electrostatic fields around conductors, especially those running at high voltages, is the principal reason that birds prefer not to sit on live lines but would frequently be seen on the over running eath wires.

Unless of course someone knows otherwise.......

Footnote: the guy who first did the trials on the practical application of this technique (in a power lab) was awarded the B.E.M. for his services to the industry.

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2008, 08:53:11 am »

this happened in new zealand but i guess the system is similar. birds taking out power supplies is quite common here. i cant vouch for the truth but the linesman seemed serious about it.
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2008, 09:34:29 am »

This thing with the birds is a bit odd, unless the power cable is grounded or broken the power will flow. The only conceivable way birds could ground a high voltage line would be to cluster around the insulator assemblies and cause an arc but even then, the insuators are designed in such a way that that woudn't be possible. Also, the mass of a bird is so small that even if they could, they would be killed by corona discharge before they able to settle. If we are talking about 32000 volt pylons you would need hundreds of birds all daft enough to try to cluster around an insulator on a wet day! If it were possible, there would be piles of birds found at the bottom of pylons and it would be fairly common knowledge that this phenomena does actually occur. Is this a pylon workers tall story of the type told to apprentices or do we have a high voltage line worker on here who can say differently?
HMMMM... seem to have drifted off spiders a bit here!
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2008, 12:57:07 pm »

The row of birds feet does seem highly unlikely,  but if an overhead wire fixing was faulty, and the wire was displaced from where it should have been, and the clearance was reduced, then bets are back on, even if at long odds.
I did get a sillly job - a report of "the phone is warbling to itself occasionally".  After much looking at I took one of the sockets apart.  On the back of the printed card was a strange looking blob.  Close inspection revealed a lot of sad little faces looking back.  These turned out to be ants. 
It seems that ants habitually follow pheromone trails, and lay them as they go.  Ant #1 was out taking the air, and found two bits of circuit board at line voltage (50V) about two ants legs length apart. 
Left right left right left right PHUT. 
Ant #2 followed the trail, with the same result, then a great many of their mates.  Eventually, there was enough matter there to make a circuit for the sounder, which warbled until the matter had dried due to the cooking action of the current passing through one of mother natures resistors.  The moisture was renewed from atmosphere by the household action of drying HUNDREDS of nappies in the kitchen, and warbling recommenced.
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2008, 11:02:40 pm »

Malcolm, it is obvious why the ants were in there you know, the manucafturers of electronic equipment put an entrance  hole in the back of the case especially for them ........ its marked 'ANT'!
It's usually adjactent to the other hole marked 'earth'.  ;)
Sorry, but couldn't resist that one!
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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2008, 06:27:29 am »

Malcomfrary: Great bit of detective work there.

Reminded me of when I was an Inspector of Weights and Measures many, many years ago. I received a phone call from a lady, " I have had 10 cwt. of coal delivered and I am sure it is short weight". Now the lads were never too keen on shovelling out coal to weigh it as it was a dirty job, the coal shed was always situated awkwardly and more often than not the allegations were unfounded. So I enquired of the lady why she thought it was short weight. "Well", she said, "I trained my dog to bark each time a sack was delivered and he's only barked 9 times". I politely but firmly advised the lady that I was not requiring my assistants to dig out 10cwt. of coal on such "evidence".

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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2008, 09:22:36 am »

There have been been three occasions when I have presonally come across electrical faults caused by animals and we're going back a bit here to the days of steam driven radio and tv.

The first was a large white rabbit owned by my brother when we were kids, he brought it into the house one evening and it crawled under the tv amid complaints from Dad to "get that animal out of the house"!. In the same instant, it munched the mains lead for the tv and a huge flash and bang occurred, rabbit being propelled across the room but apparently unharmed. When we examined him, he had copper plated frazzled whiskers!

The next occasion was a customer who complained that her Dansette record player volume was becoming fainter and the sound tinnier. On opening up the unit, I found a mouse which had been trapped inside had eaten the speaker cone in an effort to get out. The curious thing was that there was nowhere it could have got in and it still remains a mystery to this day how it got there. If it had got in there in the factory as the unit was being assembled then it would presumably have chomped on the cone long before delivery to the customer so I would have expected the fault to have existed at the time of delivery. Very weird!

The third ocasion was when I visited a customers house as she complained that her tv had died and an awful smell was coming from it. Thinking of all the likely 'stock' problems associated with this particular model, I removed the back and there was the problem staring at me.... litterally. A poor little mouse had got into the set and had obviously been crawing around when the set was switched on. His poor little carcass was  resting between the chassis and the top cap terminal of the line output valve and as this carries a fairly high voltage and delivers sufficient current, he must have been on there just as the valve had begun to operate. The customer had left the set on, hoping a picture might eventually materialise but with all that power surging through the creature he had carbonised and shorted the whole lot out. There was nothing left of him internally as he had dried out and of course you can imagine how it must have smelled in that house the night before!

Definately going right off the thread here chaps so as a token gesture to maintaing the original spider thread, I must say "I have never had problem with spiders causing electrical problems"! ;D   
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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2008, 10:39:33 am »

OK, a spider problem:

Shortly after moving into my house in France I had automatic, powered gates installed. After a few weeks the drive to one motor failed. On examination a spider had spun a web/cocoon in such a place that the motor failed to switch off. When the gate operated, the motor continued to drive such that a connecting lever fractured!

Not a spider problem: As I said I was an Inspector of Weights and Measures. Testing a weighbridge in an abattoir I found that with a static load imposed the indicator reached the correct point on the dial, stopped then crept slightly forward and then slightly backward, it did this several times. On lifting one of the plates we found a large rat running along one of the levers!

Another abattoir story: When checking a new weighbridge it was necessary to test the hardness of the knife edges making up  the lever fulcrums. This was done most scientifically, one climbed down into the pit, under the plates and applied a file to the knife edge! However, on this occasion I was not going down into the pit as the whole floor was one shimmering mass of maggots!

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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2008, 10:46:39 am »

Maggots = flies, flies = spiders! Excellent connection with original post Roger ;D.
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2008, 01:51:51 pm »

>>I must say "I have never had problem with spiders causing electrical problems"!

I have. It happened soon after a home alarm installation. The customer phoned during the early hours complaing that the sounder wouldn't shut off. So I hopped out of bed, drove over there and, sure enough, as soon as the sounder stopped it would immediately re-trigger again. It turned out that a wee spider had crawled inside one of the infra-red motion detectors and built its nest right across the sensor.
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