Topic: Big Boat Ideas Please (Read 10461 times)

GaryM · « **on:** May 30, 2008, 09:34:05 pm »

Although a noob to modeling and only ¼ way through my Marie Felling build, I'm planning ahead to my second build.

I'm into big working boats and wondered if anyone had any suggestions.
Marie Felling is 43½" x 11½" 1:32 scale, I think 50"+ and same (ish) scale would be OK, I've had a brief look around the shop sites but nothing seems to measure up.
I did see some warships, barges and yachts of size but I'm not really into them - Yet!

regards
Gary :)

boatmadman · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:15:54 pm »

GaryM · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:25:26 pm »

Yes, Yes, Yes!

Any ideas as to which one, I will try the sites again, I DO like TUGS, I really do like them :)

regards
Gary

boatmadman · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:30:58 pm »

some radical ideas here:

http://www.shipsandoil.com/ShipInformation/Groupe%20Bourbon/Groupe%20Bourbon.htm

I have already approached Bourbon, and the shipyard, Ulstein, for plans for the Orca, but neither will release them, so, I am working on my own plans!

Ian

J.beazley · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:34:43 pm »

mmm what tugs do you like????

Mobile Marine Models have plenty of BIG tugs that are rather nice looking.

Jay

GaryM · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2008, 10:59:51 pm »

Thanks Ian and Jay.
I'll have a look, every tug I've so far seen I've liked (kits and photos) there just so........

regards
Gary :)

Shipmate60 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:26:35 pm »

Gary,
If you go for a modern tug the hull forms on some are fairly simple to allow for mass production.
Make your own hull at ANY size.
Most modern hulls are made out of as few pieces of steel as possible so you can usually use ply sheet and ply frames.

Bob

GaryM · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:28:49 pm »

The "Bourbon Dolphin" looks good, as do the rest - unusual bow shape.
Could you keep us informed on your progress with your plans?
The "Brackengarth" looks real good too, both real meaty and the business.

regards
Gary :)

nhp651 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2008, 11:32:54 pm »

Hi Gary, do you fancy a change from a tug, cos I have something big and I mean big.
NO NOT THAT, as my missus would vouch for, but a model, and I mean big, and plenty of scope for very good detailing.
it's a raised quarter deck twin hatch coaster and comes in at 82, YES 82 inches long.
It 's a semi kit from Fleetscale models ( see their web site) of the 1920's coaster Moygannon, and comes with brass fittings, resin winches and beautifull quaycraft ships boats. She really is a beauty and I have longed to build her for years.
HOWEVER, as they say the grass is always greener and I fancy buying the new Speedline Tamar lifeboat kit, but her who must be obeyed has said "if you want another kit you have to build one or sell one first.
Bah humbug.
If you are interested give me a pm with your email address and I'll get it out of the loft and take photos of it.
cheers,neil.
ps. you will be amazed at what is in the package, and believe me you could use it as a canoe. If you want BIG, then this is it!!!

GaryM · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2008, 12:08:14 am »

Thanks Bob
That reminded me of a post, can't remember the Guy's name. (old creeping age)
He bought a kit or plans - one where you get the (sorry for not using the correct vernacular) hull framework -
(Like cutting a cucumber into 100 slices and leaving a gap of 2cm between each slice.)
He drew a line around each "slice" and the photo copied it at 150%, giving a larger template.
I would really like to build a boat around 50 - 60" - if I used this method would I have to replicate all of the fittings manually?
As I have said before, I'm a novice - only ¼ way through my Marie Felling Kit. Yet after seeing so many scratch built works of art, I would like to attempt one myself and with the support of the guys on this site I think I could just about do it.

regards
Gary :)

bigford · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2008, 12:59:12 am »

gary

that could be me

smit rotterdam at 56'' long
at 1/50 scale all my fittings are store bought robbe,billings and any other make i need

a few things to remember the billings rotterdam cost me $300.00 u.s.d
then all the tools i needed(scroll saw,sander,circuler saw, new dermel i killed the old one)
what i thought would be a easy thing has been on going for 6 months and cost me almost
a $700.00 to date and this is what she looks like as of today

the happy hunter is 40'' long

mrsgoggins · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2008, 10:23:11 am »

How about scaling up a TID?
Mine is scaled to 1/19 (c.44" long) but since the hull is relatively easy to scratch build, the choice of size is yours.
Don't ask why 1/19, I'm sure it was a good idea at the time.

Shipmate60 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2008, 10:49:05 am »

Gary,
If you go to a recognised scale there will be fittings available.
If you went from say 1/48 to 1/24 there are fittings available but you would still have to scratch build some ship specific ones.
One problem I can see is launching her.
At about the length you are talking about for a workboat you will need an awful lot of ballast to get her down.

Bob

GaryM · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2008, 11:58:24 am »

Thanks Bigford, yes you are the one, sorry I forgot your name.

Thanks Mrsgoggins and Bob. :)

I fancy having a go like Bigford has done, it will probably be winter time but if I do some research now it will be clear in my mind and I can plan accordingly.
A good idea keeping it to scale, as my modeling abilities are limited, yet the butterfly's in my stomach say go for it.

thanks guys and gals
regards
Gary :)

tobyker · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2008, 12:21:36 pm »

Try that fire boat on Bunkerbarge's post of his Norway fjord trip! A bit like a ST Knud with fire monitors and a boat deck!

GaryM · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2008, 12:28:51 pm »

Will do

Gary :)

Bryan Young · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2008, 01:58:56 pm »

Why not a 1930s steam trawler? If you want to scratch build I have a set of plans and description of "Bayflower". Any print shop will scale the drawings to whatever size you wish...or you can just double the size yourself to give a 50" long ship. Weighs about 50lb when ballasted. There is a pic of it somewhere on this forum. Bryan Y.

GaryM · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2008, 02:03:59 pm »

Thanks Bryan :)
I'll search out the photo.

regards
Gary

DickyD · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2008, 02:13:01 pm »

Bayflower here.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3084.0

GaryM · « **Reply #19 on:** May 31, 2008, 02:15:08 pm »

Thanks Richard

Gary :)

GaryM · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2008, 02:19:44 pm »

I really like the "Bayflower", I'm building the "Marie Felling" which is slightly similar in that they are both steam tugs and built around the same time. (Bayflower 1933 and Marie Felling 1928)

regards
Gary :)

DickyD · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2008, 02:46:40 pm »

Bayflower is a steam trawler Gary.

GaryM · « **Reply #22 on:** May 31, 2008, 03:55:12 pm »

woops!

I still love it. :)
Gary

John W E · « **Reply #23 on:** May 31, 2008, 05:44:36 pm »

Hi ya there Gary M

If you have a look at Advanced plan for beginners, theCervia build, this is a plan for a tug. Quite simple build, being plank on frame and if you doubled the size of the plan; this would give you a model of some 48 - 50 inches in size.

If you have a look under Ron1's postings, Ron build the Cervia at the 'double scale' he used MacGregor plans I believe, but, no doubt if you send Ron1 a personal message, he can help you out on that.

aye
john e
bluebird

DickyD · « **Reply #24 on:** May 31, 2008, 08:47:44 pm »

Ron1's boat.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8165.0

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