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[OneBladeMissing]

I've been reading the posts on this topic, and I fail to see why anyone would want to leave a boat in a lake if they're not actually using it. Surely, if someone has run their boat and are having a break for a natter and a sarnie, the thing to do is to take it out of the water and switch the radio off and let someone else use the frequency.
I've never been to New Brighton, but I used to race at the Barkinghead lake at Gautby Road.
Maybe I'll pop over to New Brighton one of these days, with my hydroplane! It is a public lake after all, isn't it?

GROW UP!

[ron h]

I've been reading the posts on this topic, and I fail to see why anyone would want to leave a boat in a lake if they're not actually using it. Surely, if someone has run their boat and are having a break for a natter and a sarnie, the thing to do is to take it out of the water and switch the radio off and let someone else use the frequency


When I sailed there with my son, we turned our radio,s off and handed the peg back, but left the model in the water, as you can see from the photo above, it weighed 140 lbs , it was 7ft long and 14 inch beam, one did not lift it out of the water often, ron h

[CAD2]

Can you imagine going away on holiday for a week, then coming back to check out your favourite forum, only to be confronted with this petty parochial drivel? I personally care not a whit for the New Brighton Model Club or its members, largely because none of them seems to have the spine to talk face-to-face but is quite happy to bore the other 600+ members of this forum 5h1tle55 with mewling and dummy-throwing.
For goodness' sake will you grow up and behave like real people? Even the Geordies have stopped using the forum to snipe at each other.............
CAD2

[Youngat65]

Totaly agree with you CAD2

[anmo]

Me too.

[Shipmate60]

OH goody,
Handbags at 10 paces, I do love a good DISCUSSION.
Pity there aint one on this topic.

Bob

[Craig Kane]

OH goody,
Handbags at 10 paces, I do love a good DISCUSSION.
Pity there aint one on this topic.

Bob

Discussion...........oh yeah..I think I had one of those once.
Seem to recall it being a little one-sided though..........................wonder if things will ever change?

CK

[Seaspray]

ah I trhink this thread is getting to the "Sell By" stage   :'(



Martin

[dougal99]

Whatever happended to tolerance and

'I may not agree with your views but I defend your right to express them' 


Ah free speech I remember that

JMO

Doug

[MCAT]

Just before the thread ends.  WHAT Happens when  frequency's mix

[OneBladeMissing]

What happens when frequencies mix?
Well, if it's a multi-race, carnage!
I had an incident at Gautby Road pond one when me and another bloke were experiencing interference.
While the officials were trying to sort it out, I noticed that his engine was larger than mine. It was 10cc. Mine, and the others in the race, were 6.5cc.
He'd come down onto the start line for the wrong race! He should have been in the next one!
Of course, according to him, it was all my fault.
He was from Madchester I believe.
'Nuff said!

[ambernblu]

MCAT, is that a piccy of one of the guys at New Brighton parking his model up to the concrete? Wonder if he was hogging one of the frequencies then...? 

Or maybe its what happens when someone drives his boat too fast and creates a bit of a wash? 

[MikeK]

For goodness' sake will you grow up and behave like real people? Even the Geordies have stopped using the forum to snipe at each other.............
CAD2

Like the little throw away remark at the end CAD2 ! Here's me thinking all Geordies were filled with mutual respect, or was it just to see if you got any reaction from the likes of me ?  ???

best regards
MikeK

[MCAT]

could well be  ambernblu, had the trouble with someone using the same frequency A couple of times Once while i was lifting my boat luckily my hands were away from the props.
we will always have this problem just annoying when its a club member who knows the rules

Apparently its worse for the sub boys as they cannot see were there going anyway. LOL   

[ambernblu]

.... which, if you follow the obvious course (no pun intended  ) there's the reason for 3rd party insurance - or in laymans terms, the perpetrator pays up!

Would be even better if prevention ruled the day though - 'cos we all have to do risk assessments these days.... don't we?

[Ghost in the shell]

The lake at New Brighton is in dire need of replacement for the simple reason that it's worn out and effectively cracked in two and, as a consequence it is loosing water at an unsustainable rate. Exclusive parking rights, in my view, would be perfectly proper should a new lake be built, especially if the club had contributed to the cost of the new lake.

As a former member of the new brighton boat club, and a a current member of the Potteries Model Boat Club, I got to sail on the pool on numerous occasions, and yes it does loose water, albeit slowly through the cracks, however one of the reasons for the new lake being needed is simple, The Neptune development will ultimately turn the pool into a supermarket or shopping mall!

As for making a wash with amodel, a big beamy tug with a pretty blunt nose will create a large wash even when moving slowly, so its a bit of sence needed, and sail of the way to at least give time for the water to disapate.

dave, when is your venetian night being held this year??

[casper]

I can only sympathise with the original post. There is a council owned pond where I live and it is open to the general public.

However every Saturday morning a large group of model yacht racers turn up and take over.

They will stay at the pond until the sun goes down and beware if you get in the way.
I have seen them telling young children, paddleing in the water, to get out as they are distracting them from racing.

Not only that they patrol the course in a little inflatable with an electric motor to deter people in canoes etc from
getting too near the course.

I have approached them on several occasions about sailing my model on the pond, being polite about frequencys etc, to be told that all the channels are allocated for the day. My model is not a yacht.

So after complaining to the council and being informed that the yacht group have no rights to pond time etc, I tried again to get my model in the water, but all in vain.

The next step was a bit drastic, I would go up every Saturday morning and take my transmitter with me.

Sitting in the car I would wait until they started a race and switch on my transmitter, not touching it at first i would then push and pull the levers until I could distinguish what yacht was on the same frequency.

It was just a case of waiting until the first turn of the race and yes I would turn my adopted yacht into the rest of the group.

Chaos was the normal result, with the offending skipper getting a mouthful from his friends.

After an hour or so and different crystals I would turn the transmitter off and go home happy, it was just as good as sailing, even though it was someone elses yacht.

And yes they still sail there to this day with total disregard for any other user of the pond.

[Daryl]

I totally simpathise with your plight, I like the idea of the transmitter.

Daryl

[Youngat65]

Two wrongs don't make a right

[Seaspray]

Casper
Very sad indeed that your council don't want to make an effort regards this pond to sharing with other boaters and users




Martin

[ambernblu]

.... why not advertise (via the local free rag) for other like-minded model boaters in the area who may quite fancy the idea of getting together to form a group - there is certainly strength in numbers and the council would probably sit up and take notice of a club. 

Also you mentioned that Saturday mornings are a problem - what about Sundays?  ???

[dougal99]

Casper

Sympathise with your problem but cannot agree with your solution. Sometimes discretion is the better part.. Have you tried sailing at another time?

Doug

[Daryl]

A similar problem with frequency posession occurs at Portishead, which is also a public lake which is council owned. Thats why I rarely go there.

It seems with some groups sharing and fair play is a little bit on the thin side. I am glad my boat club is one of the most freindly in the south west. Frequency clashes is never a problema s we all co-operate and encourage new people into the hobby.

Daryl

[casper]

Sunday is not an option either, basically if there is daylight, there is a yacht or 10 on the water.

These guys come mob handed,complete with tables chairs, gazebo's the works.

Sailing during the week is not an option either due to work commitments.

I can sail at other venues but it is the attitude of theses people they annoys me.
They not only stop other modellers sailing, but complain at and harass other pond users
such as small children, canoeists.

Their latest trick is to basically block the car park to the pond by placing yachts, fully rigged on the access road
behind their vehicles and motorists would rather turn away than run the risk of hitting one of the yachts.

The council are aware of this problem and decided to send the local park ranger down to investigate.

He was welcomed into the tea tent and given the tour. He reported back to the council that there was not a problem.

I have now started a petition to send to the council.

[anmo]

I can see that this is a tricky problem with no quick or easy solution. Although the local council haven't been helpful so far, I'd say that they are still the best people to talk to. I've had similar though not model boat related problems in the past, and I eventually achieved quite a lot by getting a councillor on my side to fight the case for me. Find out who the councillors are for that ward, there are usually three of them and you can find out from the council website, contact one or two of them to explain your case. Councillors are always the best people to put pressure on councils, they know exactly who to go to, and the good ones haven't forgotten that it was local voters who got them elected in the first place. Unfortunately, you're going to have to be patient, but this approach has worked for me in the past.