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[digger]

could some one help what is the best stuff to get paint off my hull so i can give it a face lift
thnks guys
darren

[oldiron]

 Non synthetic brake fluid is fantastic for removing paint. I've used it extensively on plastics as it doesn't bother most plastics. I don't think it should bother epoxy either, however, do a test on a small sample first.

John

[Stavros]

NO NO NO brake fluid is carcinogenic and should not be used at all,what you want is a paintstripper for grp and palstics google paintstripper for grp and you will find loads of links such as this......http://www.paint-stripper.co.uk/removall_paint_stripper_product_info.htm

Do Not use nitromours as it will eat away any plastic and grp gell coat



Stavros

[funtimefrankie]

I've used Wilkinsons own paint stripper OK on GRP, but it melts plasticard

[digger]

not sure when you say G R P what this stands for

[djrobbo]

G.r.p stands for glass reinforced plastic........model makers paint stripper called modelstrip.........perfectly safe to use and doesn't attack plastics...........

          hope this helps

   regards...bob.

[digger]

thanks guys thats been a good help as im new to the game ,(but enjoying it)

[amdaylight]

If the paint is well attached to the GRP hull and weight is not an issue  all you really need to do is sand it well so there is some tooth for the new paint to hold.

Andre
over yonder in Portland Oregon

[Philipsparker]

NO NO NO brake fluid is carcinogenic

Really ? I did a quick web search and most fluids data sheets lost the stuff as non-carcinogenic. I'm not sure how you'd get cancer from the stuff anyway short of drinking it. I have used old brake fluid for paint stipping but it's horrible stuff to work with and for plastics I prefer the re-useable stripper from Precision Paints.

Phil

[digger]

thanks phil
so you think break fluid will be fine on my hull and how long do you leave it on

[ian kennedy]

You could try Mr muscle oven cleaner........

It works a treat and will not eat styrene or GRP

iAN

[craftysod]

if you use brake fluid it can eat away the grp,how many cars have you seen,where someone has topped up there brake reservoir,spilt some
and there is paint bubbles and holes in metal.
Yes it will remove paint,but it will also pregnate the plastic,so when you put on new paint,it will blister,
what is the boat btw

[Stavros]

I have allready posted what to use surely with over 25+yrs working with paint on cars,boats etc etc I do really know what to use to get it off.But sorry to say it guys what you are using is dammed foolish,for goodness sake take heed of advise or is it a case of well it works for me.

It really annoys me when someone who does not really know what they are talking about suggests BRAKE FLUID or even Mr MUSCLE oven cleaner.What you guys don't seem to grasp is that as craftysod states it will impregnate the plastic,GRP and steel etc.

What really concerns me gents is that someone on this site will get it so so wrong one day and cost a fellow mayhemer money when it RUINS a model and that poster will answer with the classic WELL IT WORKS FOR ME.

Forgoodness sake keep your silly suggestions to yourselves before it costs someone his or her hard earned cash.Think long and hard actions have consequences and you could possibly be held LIABLE.

WHY simply because you posted on a public forum and someone decided to follow what you have said and ended up with a pile of melted,disfigured,plastic,or even worst still end up in INTENSIVE care due to a chemical reaction between what you have suggested,I don't think you would want that on your conscience DO YOU


I will only post the proper way of doing things,the PROFESSIONAL WAY not the suck it and see way.

Make up your own minds on this one all I know is that I am totally right in what I have just said


Stavros

[Proteus]

Stavros I think you should read these links before scaremongering

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/bfsafety2.html

http://www.gb-lubricants-fuels.co.uk/PDF/UNIVERSAL%20BRAKE%20FLUID%20260D4.PDF

http://www.motorfactorsgroup.com/DOT5.pdf

Not regarded as a health or environmental hazard under current legislation

Proteus

[oldiron]

I have allready posted what to use surely with over 25+yrs working with paint on cars,boats etc etc I do really know what to use to get it off.But sorry to say it guys what you are using is dammed foolish,for goodness sake take heed of advise or is it a case of well it works for me.

It really annoys me when someone who does not really know what they are talking about suggests BRAKE FLUID or even Mr MUSCLE oven cleaner.What you guys don't seem to grasp is that as craftysod states it will impregnate the plastic,GRP and steel etc.

What really concerns me gents is that someone on this site will get it so so wrong one day and cost a fellow mayhemer money when it RUINS a model and that poster will answer with the classic WELL IT WORKS FOR ME.

Forgoodness sake keep your silly suggestions to yourselves before it costs someone his or her hard earned cash.Think long and hard actions have consequences and you could possibly be held LIABLE.

WHY simply because you posted on a public forum and someone decided to follow what you have said and ended up with a pile of melted,disfigured,plastic,or even worst still end up in INTENSIVE care due to a chemical reaction between what you have suggested,I don't think you would want that on your conscience DO YOU


I will only post the proper way of doing things,the PROFESSIONAL WAY not the suck it and see way.

Make up your own minds on this one all I know is that I am totally right in what I have just said


Stavros

  Stavros:

 I take exception to the implication, that I , among others on the list, are offering flipant solutions that have been imaginativly drawn out of our heads. I have no doubt you are the resident expert on all things paint, however, I was a professional model train painter for about ten years when there was nothing else available to strip plastic. For the vast majority of plastics used in models brake fluid worked very well. I've also used brake fluid, as we've had to as a car mechanic. Never have I heard of it being carcinogenic. Neither would I offer a solution to a problem I haven't used myself succesfully. As with all solutions a test is advisable first.
  If I was to worry about carcinogens I'd have been dead long ago from Askarels (PCB's), asbestos and fellow employees smoking like chimneys in my prescence and coal dust and its associated fumes and high voltage electricity from working in the power industry. Life doesn't come with guarantees.

John

[snowwolflair]

Not taking any sides here but a few words of common sense for all.

I regularly buy a box of disposable medical gloves and masks and with any hydrocarbon other than Turpantine, meths, acetone, cyano, MEK or surgical alcohol I use them.  I wear glasses and if I did not I would wear safety specs in case of splashes.

[andygh]

I have allready posted what to use surely with over 25+yrs working with paint on cars,boats etc etc I do really know what to use to get it off.But sorry to say it guys what you are using is dammed foolish,for goodness sake take heed of advise or is it a case of well it works for me.

It really annoys me when someone who does not really know what they are talking about suggests BRAKE FLUID or even Mr MUSCLE oven cleaner.What you guys don't seem to grasp is that as craftysod states it will impregnate the plastic,GRP and steel etc.

What really concerns me gents is that someone on this site will get it so so wrong one day and cost a fellow mayhemer money when it RUINS a model and that poster will answer with the classic WELL IT WORKS FOR ME.

Forgoodness sake keep your silly suggestions to yourselves before it costs someone his or her hard earned cash.Think long and hard actions have consequences and you could possibly be held LIABLE.

WHY simply because you posted on a public forum and someone decided to follow what you have said and ended up with a pile of melted,disfigured,plastic,or even worst still end up in INTENSIVE care due to a chemical reaction between what you have suggested,I don't think you would want that on your conscience DO YOU


I will only post the proper way of doing things,the PROFESSIONAL WAY not the suck it and see way.

Make up your own minds on this one all I know is that I am totally right in what I have just said


Stavros

I don't believe I've ever read anything so incredibly arrogant on here, helpful advice is great but that is just going too far. Remember, nobody "knows it all".

There's no harm in everyone having their own points of view and I'm dead against censorship but a handful of members are starting to make this forum a less pleasant place to be recently, general belligerence seems to be creeping in and quite a few veiled insults ............ sad 

[digger]

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT LADS HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A GOOD DEBATE ,I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING STAVROS THE HULL WAS £500 SO DONT NEED BAD ADVICE,,,, NOT SAYING THAT I HAVE BUT I NEED TO BE 110% SURE ON WHAT I   DO ,,,SO DONT FALL OUT LADS    

I JUST NEED THE NAME OF A PRODUCT THAT IS DESIGNED FOR THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Philipsparker]

I have allready posted what to use surely with over 25+yrs working with paint on cars,boats etc etc I do really know what to use to get it off.But sorry to say it guys what you are using is dammed foolish,for goodness sake take heed of advise or is it a case of well it works for me.

It really annoys me when someone who does not really know what they are talking about suggests BRAKE FLUID or even Mr MUSCLE oven cleaner.What you guys don't seem to grasp is that as craftysod states it will impregnate the plastic,GRP and steel etc.

What really concerns me gents is that someone on this site will get it so so wrong one day and cost a fellow mayhemer money when it RUINS a model and that poster will answer with the classic WELL IT WORKS FOR ME.

Forgoodness sake keep your silly suggestions to yourselves before it costs someone his or her hard earned cash.Think long and hard actions have consequences and you could possibly be held LIABLE.

WHY simply because you posted on a public forum and someone decided to follow what you have said and ended up with a pile of melted,disfigured,plastic,or even worst still end up in INTENSIVE care due to a chemical reaction between what you have suggested,I don't think you would want that on your conscience DO YOU


I will only post the proper way of doing things,the PROFESSIONAL WAY not the suck it and see way.

Make up your own minds on this one all I know is that I am totally right in what I have just said


Stavros

What you are saying is only you should be allowed to post answers to anything as the rest of us know nothing. All I, and everyone else are offering is opinions based on our own experience.

There is always more than one way to skin the proverbial cat and what works for one may not work for another.

Phil

[Philipsparker]

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT LADS HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A GOOD DEBATE ,I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING STAVROS THE HULL WAS £500 SO DONT NEED BAD ADVICE,,,, NOT SAYING THAT I HAVE BUT I NEED TO BE 110% SURE ON WHAT I   DO ,,,SO DONT FALL OUT LADS    

I JUST NEED THE NAME OF A PRODUCT THAT IS DESIGNED FOR THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are really worried then it may be better to sand the paint off with gentle emery paper whilst wearing the appropriate protective masks etc. If you are VERY careful this will do the job. However it will be a lot harder than a proper stripper. As you can see there are a lot of options and some of them, such as the Precision Paint stripper I use on plastics, will be pricey for something as large as a boat hull. In the end it's up to you to pick the one you want to try. Testing on an easily repaired or unimportant area of the hull first would be a good idea.

Phil

[Shipmate60]

I only ever use Wet and Dry.
I don't trust the removers to get into a pinhole and ruin the next coat.
Yes Lot of elbow grease, but this method can take ages it there is rivet detail.

Bob

[red181]

wet and dry it, progressively using a finer grain, or this might do it, just make sure you are wearing protective gloves, and the battery is out of the smoke alarm

[digger]

thanks guys but i going for the easy option ihave just gave the hull to a paint sprayer £200 thats the full works with 2 pack

[Philipsparker]

Digger - I think we'd all love to see the result when you get it back. £200 isn't unreasonable taking in account the time required. 2-pack seems excessive though but if that is what the painter is happy using then that's probably why he suggested it.

Phil

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