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[regiment]

hells bell s trying to add up all of the inflight meals i helped pack  families returning to the uk troops going out  busy time  was had by all  1956 long time ago now  hastings   hermes  any thing that could fly  not forgetting the old warhorse  the shackeiton  10 thousand rivits and a pray  god bless the N /S men and the regulers of course

[Arrow5]

...you forgot the  triple-finned Avro "York". 

[Patternmaker]

Yes, a 10 hour flight in an Avro York you're deaf for 2 days

[Bryan Young]

Here we go again, part timers thinking they can do the job 

Just what is your background on this, Boaty Boy? This is probably the most offensive posts I've ever seen on this forum. BY.

[regiment]

THAT IS WHY WE ISSUED THE CHEWING GUM FOR  CHEW IT AND BUNG IN YER EOLE

[Arrow5]

It was the backward-facing seats that I didnt like....oh and the very low approach over the sea to Malta airport with the dumped aircraft clearly visible on the seabed at the end of the runway.

[Martin (Admin)]

 Any disrespect for other forum members will get you a yellow card or banned.

  We debate, we don't argue.

    Martin - admin.

[BillG]

 Any disrespect for other forum members will get you a yellow card or banned.

  We debate, we don't argue.

    Martin - admin.

Well said, seems to me that there is some trolling going here.

All servicemen / women deserve respect, whether CMF, Terror's, Reservists or Nasho's .
I also include MN.

cheers

bill

[DickyD]

Great Bill, could we have that in English, 

[Patternmaker]

 Any disrespect for other forum members will get you a yellow card or banned.

  We debate, we don't argue.

    Martin - admin.

I totally agree Martin, unfortunately offensive remarks will cause retaliation, when I started this topic I had no idea there was such disagreement between Regulars and Nation Servicemen.

God Bless our boys in Afghanistan   

[BrianCartwright]

Now then,come on fellers.
I think it's time this topic was dropped if it's causing offence.
I can only say where ever I went we all got on pretty well together.We had a job to do and just got on with it NS and regulars.
Shortly before demob I was interviewed by the lets say careers officer who was keen for me to sign on as a regular along with other NS guys,but civvy street beconned.I also fancied civvy money.Service pay was not very good at that time.
Mind you I had 5 jobs in 6 months,it took me ages to settle back into civvy life.
More than anything I missed the comeradery.

[Nordsee]

Breaking away from this rather sensative subject I would like to tell you about lack of proper training in civvy street.
In the seventies I had a small plumbing and heating business employing on average five plumbers.
They were a mixed bag but all good lads.I also took on a government trainee from a 6 months course in plumbing.
He was a quiet unassuming guy but had to be watched like a hawk.After about six months he was getting nowhere and was becomming a liability so we had to part company.
Nowadays you can become a plumber after a six week intensive course.

GOD HELP THE BUILDING TRADE

Thankfully retired
Brian

Are there any Apprentiship schemes in UK ? Here in Germany you have to do at least 2 years Apprentiship for all jobs. Shop Assistant is 3 years, Petrol Pump Attendent 2 years.  All building Trades 3 years, this includes compulsery Schooling in detail and Theory, and Practice. Then every year a progress exam and the Final. So everyone, if they finish, have a Trade.If they don't they don't get a job!

[BrianCartwright]

I'm sure there are apprenticeships in the Uk now but with the recession we're in at the moment I think they will be like herns teeth.I must admit I'm out of touch theese days  but Petes grandson has just finished one so there is hope. )I think that they will be available withe larger companies as with all the new rules and regulations thrust upon small businesses the cost would be prohibitive.

[tobyker]

Now I know why my Dad (27 years a regular) used to quote "old soldiers never die.....the young ones wish they would".

Maybe everyone did their best with the training they were given. Respect.

[w3bby]

The whole NS vs regular started with the thoughts on bringing back conscription and using it for certain sections of society.

W3bby, I was thinking more of the social problems with certain sections of the youth that would benefit from a sense of purpose, clean healthy education, good regular food, etc etc not the military aspect and the risks involved.

As only one has given views of bringing back conscription this is my opinion, it would be a good idea for young offenders to teach them respect and discipline but not to send them to combat zones.

I have the utmost respect for ALL that have served and currently serve in the military regardless of how, when or why they ended up in service. Re-introduction of conscription based upon the above would divert funding and expertise from places where it can be better put to use. The modern armed forces are not the place to socially condition youths with problems.

[RaaArtyGunner]

Now I know why my Dad (27 years a regular) used to quote "old soldiers never die.....the young ones wish they would".

Maybe everyone did their best with the training they were given. Respect.

Drafting Guys Over 60

This is funny & obviously written by a Former Soldier... 


New Direction for any war:  Send Service Vets over 60!

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down
terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the
whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight,
they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military
unit until you're at least 35. 

For starters, researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds.
Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than
28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy. 

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a
dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry.' We
are impatient and maybe letting us kill some "xxxxx" that desperately
deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for awhile. 

An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get
up early to pee, so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I'm tired and can't
sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical
son-of-a-bitch. 


If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put
them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser. 

Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and
yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation
for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the
house, away from the screaming and yelling. 


They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat
and never saw a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did
I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. 

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never
seen anyone outrun a bullet. 

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to
shave, to start a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured
out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his
head. 

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more
about life before sending them off into harm's way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last
thing an enemy would want to see is a couple million "xxxxx" off old farts
with attitudes and automatic weapons, who know that their best years are
already behind them.

HEY!!  How about recruiting Women over 50...in menopause!!! You think MEN
have attitudes??

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!!  If nothing else, put them on border patrol. They'll
have it secured the first night!

[BrianCartwright]

That's it in nut shell.Brilliant Well done.I couldn't have said it better.Well not in so many words

[regiment]

that aircraft  dumped in the sea  could be the avro york  that crashed in to dingle cliffs killing all on board  just after the suez do